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Color up to get rating at MLIFE Pai Gow

Discussion in 'Comps' started by pokerbum, Oct 16, 2014.

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  1. pokerbum

    pokerbum Tourist

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    I am a little confused on this one, and hope to get some help from the experts here so I can learn for next time.

    Last week at the Luxor I was playing Pai Gow Poker for about 2 hours at an average bet about $20. I was playing slots before so know how many points I had, then put my card in the machine after playing and did not see any increase in the points. So it seems like I was not rated for this session based on that and my tier points.

    My question would I not be rated at the Luxor becuase I was under the $25 limit for MGM?
    Or was it because I did not color-up after the session?
    Or was I rated- but just so little because it's PGP?

    The Dealer was insistent I color-up at the end, but I told her I wanted to go play Craps so did not want to Color Up right then- (but then GF was ready to leave the Luxor so did not end up playing craps until much later at NYNY). It's not a real big deal- but I would just like to know for next time incase it is something as dumb as not coloring-up that time, I will make sure to color up next time!
     
  2. sindustry

    sindustry VIP Whale

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    It takes a little time for table ratings to be entered into the system. I think i was told about 30 minutes or so.
     
  3. HuskerBB

    HuskerBB Low-Roller

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    As the above post indicated the table games points don't get in right away. At my local casino they sometimes don't show up on my account until the next day. Playing $20 Pai Gao it is possible you did not get rated - or if you did your points would be pretty miniscule.

    Coloring up has nothing to do with the rating directly but it does help them get an accurate record of your actual won/loss into the system. Primarily they want to do it to help them keep track of the chips that they have in play at the table and to help avoid having to replenish the lower denomination chips frequently. If everyone left the table with all their reds they would have to keep bringing more reds to the table. You would also probably be amazed about how closely pit bosses and dealers keep track of the higher denomination chips at each table. If someone puts a black (or certainly a purple or yellow) in their pocket or purse to try to hide their true "win" from the pit boss it generally does not work. They know those chipss are out and at least the dealer knows who has them.
     
  4. bubbamsu

    bubbamsu Low-Roller

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    At $20/hand you are not going to see that many comps on your mlife account and coloring up has nothing to do with the comp system at all. I have heard the 30 minute rule as well, but I have seen it take as long as the next day.

    The dealers always want to color up lower chips, i.e. $1,5,25, it keeps them from needing refills every hour or so.
     
  5. undathesea

    undathesea Grandissimo

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    The dealers want you to color up so they can enter the amount into the computer.

    I think they probably don't rate at $20 and if they did rate I think it would take a while to get into the system.
     
  6. pokerbum

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    Thanks for all the input. I think the issue is with the amount being bet, and if I was rated he system did not catch up as I moved on to other games.

    I just wanted to make sure for next time, that I was not breaking an unwritten rule for Mlife by not coloring up, since the dealer was almost offended I didn't to Color Up! But now it makes more sense....

    Also I'm new to Mlife, and realize there are a couple little things that their program does different the local Indian Casinos in CT where I usually play.
     
  7. undathesea

    undathesea Grandissimo

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    the amount of points for $25/hand pai gow for 2 hour is pretty insignificant. If I had to guess... somewhere around 300 points per hour or less. So, it's not like you lost a lot of points in the grand scheme of things. Yet... every little bit helps.

    MLife still confounds me. Every time I think I have a very good understanding of their system, I check my point balance and feel I've gotten way more points for my play than I should have. I guess that's a good thing.
     
  8. 44inarow

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    Yep, sometimes longer. For whatever reason, a lot of MGM places moved away from having the computers at the tables, and the pit bosses are now back to keeping track of the ratings on a form. It takes a while for the handwritten information to make it back to mLife.
     
  9. DeMoN2318

    DeMoN2318 The DERS

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    You don't get points for table play...

    Points are only for slot and VP play...


    I think you are talking about Teir Credits...which are not visable through the slot display...
     
  10. bjpcyclone

    bjpcyclone High-Roller

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    For the past several trips, I've been told MGM will now rate you on any bet, not just $25+ anymore. My guess is you'll see your tier credits (although it might not be a lot) eventually.
     
  11. Kickin

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    Good catch.
     
  12. shifter

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    you color up when you leave the table

    so that you don't take all the small chips

    and they have to waste time ordering a fill.

    it's just considerate.

    even if you're going over to craps right then,

    you take your big chips over there and have them break them down
     
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