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Chicken safety

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by Joe, Jul 29, 2014.

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  1. Joe

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    Chicken is a staple in our house and we eat a lot. I'm not a hand wringer worrier, but some of this is scary stuff and to now allow self inspections by employees of the company. I guess the foxes will be guarding the hen house.

    If you buy your chicken from the supermarket, here are a few things about its life that might make you less eager to eat it. As a chick, your chicken's beak was cut off so that it wouldn't attack other chickens in the overcrowded cage in which it was raised. Your chicken was fed so much grain so quickly – supplemented with antibiotics – that, by the time it was ready for slaughter at the age of five weeks, its breasts were swollen and disproportionately large, rendering it unable to walk. Once your chicken was slaughtered, it was tossed into a chlorinated bath or doused with other industrial-grade chemicals so that your chicken would reach you "clean"


    http://www.alternet.org/food/why-fdas-latest-move-chicken-inspection-literally-full-sht?page=0%2C0
     
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    Sounds like a hooker I once knew.
     
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    Why are we so worried about chicken safety? Isn’t the chicken dead?
     
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    Ate undercooked chicken once(my own fault), never, ever again.:vomit:
     
  5. Backagain1

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    It is dead but look at what happened to it when it was living, I think this could affect the person eating it if I am not mistaken.
    Wow!
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    My bad. Poor subject title.
     
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    I eat chicken from the supermarket a couple times each day.

    Its cheap and nutritious.

    Feel free to sooth your guilt and pay more for it.

    i will get it on sale whenever I can.
     
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    I'm pretty sure thecarve was just joking around with the wording.
     
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    The consumption chain is exploitative and cruel and bloody, be it humanity's modern version or what Mother Nature does. When a cougar severs the spine of a deer and proceeds to eat it while the sucker is still alive ... ? The coyotes in the canyon last night that literally tore something apart ...?

    There are those who are philosophically inclined to say we should be more advanced than we are, that perhaps we shouldn't even see our animal brethren as food stuffs. Others think it's just a bird, who cares? Most are in the middle. We like to think our part in the supply chain is somehow accomplished with a lack of cruelty or suffering or what not; most of the time we have no clue of the reality.

    My beef with a good bit of the commercial stream is how foodstuffs have been dumbed down. We've Chicken McNuggeted so much in the name of uniformity and cost and blandness and ease. That's why heirloom and heritage strains and breeds are doing well. I mean, Wilbur still dies getting to my plate, but a real turkey vs. that bland, mealy, white, corpulent shit that Corporate Food-dom has somehow convinced us is good -- keep the latter, tyvm.

    Everything comes down to a tradeoff between cost and value, of course. Some might add an ethical component for the food chain.
     
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    OOPS.
     
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    I just wish they would plump up the thighs instead of the breasts. White meat sucks!
     
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    +1 :thumbsup:
     
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    I SO agree... figures white meat would be healthier!
     
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    that article is factually incorrect

    chickens raised for meat are able to walk the entire time they are alive if they are not walking while in the chicken house they are either dead or dying and will be culled within an hour or so of not walking

    chicken house owners walk their houses at least 3 times a day if not more for just such a purpose

    and there is nothing wrong with a chlorine wash especially since chlorine is in the municipal water that the vast majority of people in the developed world drink and a bleach wash is highly recommended for produce bought outside of the USA, most of Europe and Japan and the effects of failing to follow that recommendation will be much less pleasing

    and pretty much all chemicals are "industrial grade" at some point even the ones that go into medicines, "healthy" foods and soaps and washes so trying to make them sound evil by calling them "industrial grade" is just silly......unless you prefer that your sanitation is done with chemicals that are so diluted as to not function properly

    the people of the USA and of the vast majority of the world are living longer, more healthy and active lives than ever before and that is while many are fat or even obese because of the abundance of cheap and uncontaminated foods and the "chemicals" ect in those foods have nothing to do with the obesity it is the massive over consumption and the corresponding lack of exercise or even general movement

    as for heritage breeds and the like unfortunately those take a dramatically different method of preparation and cooking that many are no longer knowledgeable of or capable of or willing to do and so when many that are not prepared get a hold of those types of animals they end up dissatisfied and put off by them especially at the price point offered

    but I agree that if properly prepared you will have a much more enjoyable meal overall compared to "off the shelf" meats

    overall there is an abundance of food in the USA and even more options and I will volunteer to not tell others what to eat or how to eat if they are willing to do the same especially when I have the teeth and digestive system that is specifically designed to consume meat and specifically not designed to forage, chew forage or digest forage and cellulose, but instead designed to consume other things that can forage and convert forage to energy and muscle mass that I have the ability to consume and digest and convert to energy and muscle mass and even fat
     
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    -1. I much prefer white meat. :peace:

    I eat a ton of chicken but to be honest I'm not a big fan of the chicken we get in the States. The chicken you get elsewhere (especially in S. America) tastes better since the chicken wasn't given a ton of chemicals...
     
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    I am going to go with what @SOMEONE said, it makes me feel a lot better than what @Joe said. I read a couple books on going a little more animal product free in my diet while on vacation last month. I have cut down to one serving per day of chicken or fish, no beef or pork at all. It is because of the way the animals are raised and what I believe is unnatural. I am not on a soap box about animal rights, I am just super concerned about my own health. I have a ton of people I know with various forms of cancer who are on in their 30s or 40s. It is scary stuff, not sure of the cause, but seems to make sense to eat a bit more natural.
     
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    My Favorite Animal

    Our teacher asked what my favorite animal was, and I said, "Fried chicken."
    She said I wasn't funny, but she couldn't have been right, because everyone else laughed.

    My parents told me to always tell the truth. I did. Fried chicken is my favorite animal.

    I told my dad what happened, and he said my teacher was probably a member of PETA. He said they love animals very much.

    I do, too. Especially chicken, pork and beef. Anyway, my teacher sent me to the principal's office. I told him what happened, and he laughed, too. Then he told me not to do it again.

    The next day in class my teacher asked me what my favorite live animal was.
    I told her it was chicken. She asked me why, so I told her it was because you could make them into fried chicken. She sent me back to the principal's office. He laughed, and told me not to do it again.

    I don't understand. My parents taught me to be honest, but my teacher doesn't like it when I am.

    Today, my teacher asked me to tell her what famous person I admired most. I told her, "Colonel Sanders."

    Guess where I am now...
     
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    I like thigh meat better too but be happy its not in as much demand because that keeps it cheaper.

    My only issue with these crazy freak chickens they grow vs natural ones is they lose so much taste. I remember when I lived overseas seeing nothing but small chicken breasts in the stores until I realized that is the normal size for a chicken breast, not the stuff we get here. But it tasted so much better. I'm an awful cook but anytime I cooked chicken over there it tasted so good, I make the same dish here and its a different story. Without any spices or seasoning at all a natural piece of chicken has so much flavor when you cook it, trying cooking up a piece of these freak chickens (especially the breasts) without putting anything on it and it tastes like nothing.
     
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    I'd guess it is more a function of livestock in other countries, and particularly so-called lesser-developed countries, being more like, well, livestock. Why does a mutt look like a mutt? Why do foxes and coyotes and wolves look more like each other than most any three breeds at an AKC event? Because some person isn't trying to keep a chihuahua looking like a sickly rat.
     
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    America's ostrich-in-the-sand obsession with avoiding "fat," while we are w/o a doubt the unhealthiest rich nation around, is reflected in how we've bred what we eat. And we want it uniform, every boneless skinless breast is exactly x.y ounces and perfectly package-able in same-same 4" x 4" shrink-wrap and for sale in bulk at WalCo. We like things, some might say, bland. :peace: We really really like easy above all else. Uniformity in texture, size, taste makes it easier to replicate things over and over and over. It's the mechanization of not just the food chain but consumption.
     
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