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Video Poker CET video poker report

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by HuskerBB, Jun 1, 2015.

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  1. HuskerBB

    HuskerBB Low-Roller

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    Just returned and was curious to check out for myself the reports of the downgraded video poker at CET properties. I just play JOB or Bonus and am not an advantage player by any means - but do at least look at pay tables. My rule of thumb is that I consider 7/5 bonus or 8/5 JOB to be "playable" and 7/5 bonus is what I end up playing most of the time.

    I can confirm that Planet Hollywood has definitely downgraded all of their pay tables in the main casino. Could not find 7/5 bonus at all in the places I usually have played there. They did have 7/5 bonus in the high limit area - but only on a $2 machine or a $1 triple play machine. I usually play $1 single line if I can. I played a little bit on the triple play machine - but really for $15 a spin you should be able to get a better pay table than 7/5 bonus in my view. So for me PH is basically off the play list for VP - which is a shame because it is my favorite casino for blackjack which is my primary game.

    On the positive side I also made quick checks of the other CET places where I played VP last year. At Caesars, Cromwell and Bally's the machines that I played last year all still were 7/5 bonus - so from what I could tell this change was primarily done individually at PH. These are all main floor machines - I think those earlier reports were about bar tops being downgraded - so that could be true all over.

    I think this is a mistake for Planet Hollywood. I have never found decent VP at Paris so my alternative for video poker was to cross the street to Aria or Bellagio where 7/5 bonus is easy to find and you can do better than that if you look. Even closer I easily found a 7/5 bonus machine in Cosmo. I still like PH for blackjack - although I would say the quality of dealers there is also not what it was a couple years ago either. I am just one person but the PH changes definitely led me to spend more time in MGM casinos this trip. (Of course I realize most Vegas gamblers are not anywhere near this discerning. For example, I was checking out blackjack tables at Paris and asked a guy getting up to leave if the table was 6/5 or 3/2 and he had absolutely no idea what I was talking about even after playing at the table.)
     
  2. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    The changes have been everywhere and have totally screwed quarter players, but some 7/5 Bonus machines for dollars+ have remained as you saw at other casinos.

    I found single line 7/5 Bonus post casino downgrade at Planet Hollywood for dollars in late April. It was on a bank of 6 units near the north elevator that had only $1, $2, and $5 denominations on them. I'd be surprised if that was changed since, but I didn't make a complete scan. They also had 7/5 Super DDB (98.61%) available on them as their highest return option.
     
  3. HuskerBB

    HuskerBB Low-Roller

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    Thanks for the information. If I had known about that bank of machines I probably would have played it some this trip - just went to the places I had played before and confirmed they had downgraded but missed the ones you mention. I forgot to check VPfree before we left so maybe that would have told me where to look. I guess as long as they keep some machines at that level I can now locate them to play there - although I don't like the total downgrade for quarters players. Seems like 7/5 bonus should be enough of a house advantage - but from the casino's perspective I know they are aware that most of the people who play VP don't even look at the pay tables or understand that they vary from machine to machine.

    I do think it is good if they keep at least some machines with a higher pay back so that players that care can find them. I used to visit a former Harrah's property in St. Louis that had a single old 9/6 JOB machine with .25, .50 and $1 denominations. It was just one out of several hundred machines - but if you knew where it was you could play that machine (assuming no one else who paid attention beat you to it - which was rarely the case there). It is sort of like with blackjack - if they keep even 1 or 2 lower limit 3:2 tables then you can avoid alienating the discerning gambler. You can have the 6:5 tables for the people who don't care about the rules and you won't have that much complaining as long as they leave options open to the people who do pay attention to house advantages.
     
  4. TIMSPEED

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    Yup, these are still there.
     
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    simonay Low-Roller

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    Are these all $10 = one tier credit does anyone know, specifically the 7/5 Bonus / DDB ones?
     
  6. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Anything not full pay is still $10 a tier credit. The best returning game on the strip for CET currently that is $10 a tier credit is 9/5 JoB with Double STP for dollars (98.45%; 98.95% w/DSTP) which can be played for a single line with or without DSTP using the touch screen to adjust the bet. And one bank at Rio has 8/5 Bonus (99.17%) for $10 a tier credit, iirc.

    VPFree2 would have details about the locations.

    Harrah's added more than one of those. There are eight 9/6 games total i think. And hell hollywood has kept them all since they bought the place (shocked). I usually play 35/8/5 Bonus (99.66%) there on the same units instead though.
     
  7. Viva Las Vegas

    Viva Las Vegas Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

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    I play the non STP 9/5 3 or 5 line in the PHo HLR, The Rio machine is the only other CET Vegas machine I'd consider. I don't like the variance at 3-5 line $ STP or DSTP, never seem to catch and you burn through cash quick with the extra $3/$5 per spin. If it weren't for a good few 9/5 JOB sessions (one RSF, about $2K up + $500 in FP from Diamond Tournament), I'd have burned the rest of my CET comps. I'll through in several hundred tops next stay and if the CET run ends there the next two trips, so be it, I turn to MILFe 9/6 JOB, on top of the Boyd DT JOB/DB and other places.

    I don't play locally, but would go to CET Tahoe again the play 9/6 3 line. Love the Tahoe area.

    I've become more disciplined with the VP pay tables, especially after what I have learned here, and through the school of Hard Knocks.
     
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