1. Welcome to VegasMessageBoard
    It appears you are visiting our community as a guest.
    In order to view full-size images, participate in discussions, vote in polls, etc, you will need to Log in or Register.

CET Tier Points for Ultimate Texas Hold 'em Play

Discussion in 'Comps' started by 2VegasNuts, Dec 24, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. 2VegasNuts

    2VegasNuts High-Roller

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Messages:
    662
    Location:
    Springfield from California
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    184
    Just got back from 5 days in Vegas staying at PH. My awesome host set us up in a Boulevard Suite with an air hockey table in the room. I also spent some time with a group of PH dealers and table supervisors after hours. Very interesting information that I will post in a trip report someday.

    The point of this post is the tier points acquired from UTH and Paigow. As many of you probably know, you can go to the TR desk and get a table by table accounting of your play. Unfortunately, They can only view, not print. I was very surprised to find out that my UTH play on day 2 only generated 320 Tier Points and basically a hot dog in RC's. My time was 2 hours 53 minutes at $405/hand (4x ante + trips bet). There were 1-3 players at the table. At a full paigow table for 3 hrs 22 min, $180/hand I received 460 TC's and RC's of about another hot dog. Prior to my visit, my host checked with a table games supervisor who wrote back that UTH at $200/hand would generate 300 TC's per hour. Nope. Wish I could find that email :)

    I would have thought that at carnival games like these, my play would have counted for more?
     
  2. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED !địt mẹ!

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    4,572
    Location:
    Modesto, CA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    001
    Casinos have "gotten the memo" about UTH...Even though they SAY they're rating you for 4x ante (max raise) they're NOT...because there's no house advantage on the raise bet, only the Ante and Blind.
    Same with PGP...the house knows that it's such a slow game with a LOT of pushes, that it won't generate much...
    MLife is much more generous for table game players...
     
    Palace Tower Suite!
  3. grosx2

    grosx2 VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,406
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    21
    On my last couple trips, I noticed how shitty CET rates UTH. Once to PH and once to Rio. This past trip in particular it was evident....it was a four night trip, and I played UTH on two nights and C4P on two nights. All nights were similar stats, $10 per circle and about a 3-4 hour session. I got about 2-3 times the tier on C4P as I did on UTH. Ended up winning more on C4P too.
     
  4. 2VegasNuts

    2VegasNuts High-Roller

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Messages:
    662
    Location:
    Springfield from California
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    184
    Agreed. Although I did not see a single player over my 9 hours of play in 3 days that played anywhere close to correctly. The biggest misplays I saw were players not willing to go 3/4x on big opening hands and not betting 2x when they hit a pair.

    For myself, I did confirm at the table that my rating would be 4x ante plus trips. When I left the table, I asked my average bet and was told $405. The next day I checked with the TR desk and was told 2hrs 53min at $405/hand.
     
  5. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED !địt mẹ!

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    4,572
    Location:
    Modesto, CA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    001
    True...NO ONE I've EVER seen has played UTH even CLOSE to correct (they're always just playing for the trips "cuz it's where the money is" lol)
    Also, I mean that; even though they say you had a $400 average, on UTH they figure only REALLY a $100 average ($100 on the bet with a House Advantage)
    Seriously, I'd either play UTH at a Boyd Property, or not play at all (if you care about comps)
     
    Palace Tower Suite!
  6. sindustry

    sindustry VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2013
    Messages:
    3,172
    I would agree with you. I went to my local Harrah's last week and played just over an hour of UTH at $50 ante (200/hand). I got around 160 in TC's. It seems the email quoted you double the actual, or the actual is half what it should be.
     
Tags:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.