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CET agrees to pay fine for underaged drinking/gaming

Discussion in 'Casino Industry & Development' started by Sonya, Jul 20, 2012.

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  1. Sonya

    Sonya Queen of VMB

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  2. Someone

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    I can think of several ways it happens.....in the wayback when I was a kid we were all at a Pizza Hut (about 12 of us) and we ordered some pitchers of beer.....the waitress went around carding people and some of us were not old enough and just told her so and then one friend of ours just handed her his ID even though he was about 9 months too young......since some of us had already just told her we were not old enough and since it was less than a year to being of age she just looked at it real quick and said OK thanks and moved on to the next person

    if it was a younger person checking IDs I would not be surprised at all if they could not do the basic math to figure out of they were of age so again it is like the above....they presented it with an attitude they were old enough so OK thanks......and to some young people today "dates" are much harder than basic math......no I don't have a lot of faith in some of the younger generation

    the $20 dollar trick......an Id and $20 dollars.....OK thanks......what is the chances the person that accepted the ID will be around to actually get caught VS the "casino" taking the hit and having no clue who was sloppy doing their job

    people today just don't care.....they are so scared, lazy, indifferent, worthless towards doing their J O B that they just go through the motions.....why get in yet another confrontation with some young entitled loud mouth when you can just glance at their ID and move on and not worry because you will not be getting caught or paying any fine your employer will and J O B s are a dime a dozen making a low wage with a bad attitude so today on the casino floor tomorrow at the 7-11 next week at BK or McDs....who cares right!

    any of the above would easily explain how this happens
     
  3. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    most people who check IDs don't even check the date. you can tell because they don't look at it long enough to see anything. when you go to a club you can really see how they do it when they really check it.
     
  4. captainron62

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    Exactly what I was going to say, we own a chain of small retail stores and almost everytime there is a bust the employee physically looked at the I.D, but then still made the sale.
     
  5. chess

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    Talked to a guy at Harrahs that was a craps dealer....awesome dude... very cool and he had been with them for 15 years.....

    Gave me alot of insight to how screwed up CET is getting....
     
  6. JRSOBX

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    When I was 19-20, I would regularly hand over my ID. They would just check to make sure it was my face on the picture and really never looked at the birth date.

    It probably helped that I was hairier than a sasquatch.
     
  7. worldtraveler661

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    Shifter, yup they really really check it at the clubs real close. I dont know if theyre just BSin and holding it long just to look at them. But in many instances I see doormen looking at ID and the person multiple times. And even some ask the birthdates on some people that look young. LOL.
     
  8. user3657

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    What about the other side not really caring and wanting to be "cool"? its like being a teen at the beach and getting that pizza/beer/whatever for free or rung up as something different because he/she thinks your cute?

    Its like one time at Drais while in line, I heard a bouncer tell what I guess was a "regular" that "just a warning, police are here". The gentlemen then goes to his buddies "Yo,po-po is here". "f*ck that". and off they went. Sure enough still waiting in line, a few come out.

    So unless there is a better way then just having a human read an ID, there will always be problems.
     
  9. dfalk

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    We have stings here all the time and 9 times outta 10 the employee looked at the ID and still sold to an underage kid. People are just idiots and would much rather sell to someone than have to do simple math to determine if they're 21 or not.
     
  10. HoyaHeel

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    And on the underage side - I think showing your real id (while stupid) is less illegal than showing a fake id (that might not be quite grammatically correct but I think I'm in the right legal ballpark:eek:) Given the issues described above where few people properly read an id (esp out of state....) then why not play your odds and show your real id?
     
  11. Terry Benedict

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    Our state drastically reduced the sale of alcohol to minors when it changed the fines from just the business owner to the business AND the sales clerk. If you're a cashier, you probably don't want to spend $500 on someone else's buzz. And it increases for future offenses.

    Cities, counties, and states issue food handlers' card, why not add alcohol handlers also? If you get busted checking an ID and still serve them, you get increased penalties and put on The List. Get multiple offenses and you get banned from being in an industy that serves alcohol.
     
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    I was at a bar recently (I'm 38) and the doorman was checking closely. He was super cool and I started up a chat with him because of the unique necklace he was wearing. It was length of chain and strung on it were what I would estimate about 100 ID's. They were various confiscated fakes, forgeries, etc. He displayed them proudly as his "kills" much in the same way that the psychotic movie soldiers would string enemy ears around their necks.

    Anyway . . . back to the CET case. I knew nothing about it, but I knew there must have been a recent major incident. Why? Because when I took my friends there around the week of July 15, we went into a number of Harrah's properties and my friends (also late 30's, but from the UK, and they left their passports in their room safe) -- they got checked each and every time. And so did I. We tried a bunch of different tables (not wanting to trek it back to the room) and couldn't find one to let us slide. They were EXTREMELY strict about it. I've never in my life seen that extent of ID policing in a casino (especially considering NONE of us look underage).

    Anyway, I'm glad to know that I was right about my theory.
     
  14. nostresshere

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    I think sometimes the multiple looks are cause they don't have a clue what they are doing. LOL!
     
  15. kman008

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    I was playing at Harrah's and was quite annoyed that me and my friends were getting carded like crazy. Never have I been asked to give the dealer my ID when I changed tables, and the table was right next to the one I was playing at. Our ages are 29 and 30. When I was playing at Rio, they did not card me at all. I will not be back to Harrahs again due to the constant hassle.
     
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    For me, its gotten to the point where I just hand them my players card and ID without question. I get carded everywhere.
     
  17. topcard

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    Harrah's Irrationality

    During my most recent trip (August 2012), I had my 24 year old son with me...I had taken him to Vegas as his birthday gift (aug. 3rd).

    However, my son had failed to renew his then 9-day expired driver's license prior to the trip.

    We played at multiple casinos without incident.

    When we got to Harrah's, they carded him & he produced his license... they told him that it was expired and, therefore, he could not play.
    I then asked them to run his DL and pull up his player's card (which he did not have with him). They refused, saying it did not matter.
    My son then pointed out that he was not asking to drive a vehicle for Harrah's - he was showing proof of his birth date and his age.

    They were adamant that, not only could he not play, but that he could not even remain standing behind the table.

    At that point, me and my friend colored out, cashed out and we all left the casino.

    I will never be back.

    I hope they think it was worth it.
     
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  18. Nevyn

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    Topcard, you make it sound like they were being unreasonable jerks.

    But, as you see, there are consequences of letting anyone underage play, and an expired license is not valid ID. They are allowed to accept it.

    There have been more than a few older brothers and sisters over the years who have given an underage relative their old license so they can use it as fake ID. Pulling up the players card is really no better, since if there's no valid ID who's to say its the actual player?

    Myself I'm impressed that they actually read the license that carefully. It is not CET's fault that your son brought no valid ID while still at an age where its very likely he'll get carded.
     
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    Our local Harrah's got spanked by the Iowa authorities not too long ago for letting an underage kid on the floor. They ejected the kid and voluntarily reported the incident and still got fined for not catching him at the door. Ever since they have been "carding hard" anyone who appears to be under 35 or so at the door. They have some kind of a scanner machine which does the age/validity checks.
     
  20. vegas9094

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    In August of this year I was in Vegas. I had lost a players card or two, so I needed new ones made. When they go to look up your account they are flagged if your ID has expired that you opened your membership with. They have to put in a current expiration date before they can do anything.
     
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