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CET ADT late arrival question

Discussion in 'Comps' started by buffalo, Nov 17, 2013.

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  1. buffalo

    buffalo Low-Roller

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    This may have been brought up before, but here goes. If you arrive late in the evening and check into a comped CET property in Vegas, does your ADT get dinged for that day even if you don't have a chance to play? Do you think it's wise to not use your card that day if you find yourself in that situation?

    It would be hard to duplicate 8 hrs of average daily play in only an hour or two.
     
  2. freez111

    freez111 Tourist

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    i asked the same question a couple if days ago...was told that it starts the moment that you check in to that comped room.

    i figured as much i am a late arrival as well and planned to hit a few mlife properties that night.

    hope it doesnt throw me off too much, still planning to play most at cet props.

    enjoy your trip,

    freez
     
  3. Jordan

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    I get in at 11:00pm, I was thinking of not playing until I wake up next day (after6:00am). And by not play I mean, with my card :) thoughts?
     
  4. mrstealth

    mrstealth High-Roller

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    Unless things have changed ADT is only triggered when you insert your card into a machine or your card is swiped by the pit boss. Remember also that a "Day" is not midnight to midnight. In most CET properties it is sometime early in the morning like 5 or 6 am.

    Now, if you are staying in a comped room and show no gambling activity for that day, that is something different.

    Unless you are receiving substantial comps now above and beyond free rooms and some free play, 1 day of no or low gambling activity is probably not going to negatively affect your comps. If you totally "stiff" them however, that is a different story.
     
  5. paperposter

    paperposter VIP Whale

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    if its a comped room or you have given them your rewards number its starts then ,if you book a payed room and dont give them your tr number it doesnt matter
     
  6. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I am not 100% convinced that checking in starts the computer ticker.

    It might. But, if you are only going to play a little, why not just skip using the card... just in case?

    If my checkin in day is light, I do NOT use my card. Actually, I have had 4-5 day trips and only play with CET card on 2-3 days. I might play a little the other days, but do NOT use my card.

    Does it help? Hard to say. But, giving up $17 in total rewards credits or whatever is surely not a big loss. (or whatever small credit I would get for a low play day)
     
  7. Julie888

    Julie888 High-Roller

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    I'd hate to think of it starting the day you check in. If it applied to the main player, it might also apply to the companion.

    If it's a partial day, I've started playing on my husband's card that day.
     
  8. NandJfrmNJ

    NandJfrmNJ High-Roller

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    I thought I read somewhere that your ADT at CET is averaged over the # of days that you stay. I have no idea if this is true b/c we play when we want to not when we think we'll benefit. Maybe this is MLife that I'm thinking about though so don't take my word for it.
     
  9. engicedave

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    Once you use your card on a CET property, anywhere, anything, once that # goes in, you've clocked a day.

    When you check in on a comp, your TR# goes into the system, *DING*, you've begun a day.
     
  10. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    If the companion was on the reservation, maybe. That was used to get a better rate/comp, but no idea if it sticks, and is transferred from the hotel system over to the Total Rewards systems.

    As to which card you play with - we ALWAYS focus play on one card or the other. Especially with this year bonus points.
     
  11. Kickin

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    With MLife its been posted that they average it over the number of nights you stay. So if you're there Fri-Sun and play each day you'll get averaged over 2 days, regardless of how little you play on the Friday you check-in or the Sunday you checkout. With CET this same play would apparently be averaged over 3 days.

    I don't know what is actually confirmed or not, but I've come to the opinion I might as well always use my card. On my last overnight in AC I decided to play a little VP the morning we were leaving and inserted my card to use some freeplay. Good thing I did because I ended up putting about 3000 TCs of play in before bonus, and losing all my winnings from the previous night plus more. Even though I thought I would only play for a tiny bit, I ended up chasing and chasing so at least I got some credit for it.
     
  12. buffalo

    buffalo Low-Roller

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    This is the approach I've been using the last couple of years. I'll use a card if I know I'll be heavy gambling on a certain day. I'll not use a card if it's a light gambling day. Of course I always use a card at the hotel I'm staying at if I'm on a comp.

    This is what I'm assuming happens. If you check in at midnight on a comp, you have to play twice as hard on day 2 to make up for no play on day 1.
     
  13. domeboy

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    CET has trip averages, daily adt, annual adt, and who knows what else. They even calculate different in AC vs. Vegas I heard. The only time I don't use my card is after 6 am on checkout morning; that can trigger another trip and gambling day. If you are staying three days use your card even on low play days or else trip average will suffer.
     
  14. leo21

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    When I'm at a local CET casino, I take stuff like this into consideration but not as much in Vegas. My experience is that they are a little more forgiving if you don't play on a check in day or have one light day. And if you are a long time customer, it's going to take a lot to significantly alter your averages.
     
  15. waverunner

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    I just came back from 5 nights at Bally's. I did the same thing i have always done including 2 other times this year. I never use my card on the 6th day. I checkout at 11 am and leave Vegas about 3 pm never once using my card. In fact, after 11 am on the day of departure, i'm no longer in any casino even though i have a few hours left to kill. And i also don't use my card after midnight on the previous night just to be safe.
     
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