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Cash game vs Tournament

Discussion in 'The Poker Room' started by DoctorPong, Apr 29, 2015.

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  1. DoctorPong

    DoctorPong Tourist

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    I'm going to be in Vegas in July and I'm thinking I want to play some poker. After researching a lot of the different levels of tournament buys and cash games up and down the strip which would you vets suggest for an avid NL player playing for the first time in Vegas? Is it worth it to play the cheap tournaments? Or if I'm serious about playing should I just go all out for the higher dollar tournaments? Or is it smarter for me to just play a cash game for my first poker experience in Vegas? Been to Vegas 1-2 times before, but I'm a craps guy... Didn't go too close to the poker rooms.
     
  2. nickle

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    I can only tell you my point of view. I have played low limit cash games (both limit and no limit) and several low buy in tournaments.
    For the most part, the no limit games are not enjoyable because you either have to play so tight or have a larger bankroll than I am prepared to put at risk. When I have played, after an hour or so of playing blinds and good hands, I'm bored and pack it in. The chance of being busted is always there.
    Low stakes limit games (up to 6-12) can be played in a much more loose manner and have a more social atmosphere. I find it easy to play a 4-5 hour session without the risk of ruin!
    Tournaments are a great way to absolutely control your cost. Generally, the more the buy-in, the better the play. There are many on the strip that take 3-5 hours to play to end.
     
  3. sigsev

    sigsev Low-Roller

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    What do you normally play? I'd play that.
     
  4. sindustry

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    I would play a cash game. The levels move up too quick in the cheap tournaments, they end up being all-in tournaments very quickly.
     
  5. DoctorPong

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    Well cash games locally, but thats Missouri, brother. I assume Vegas is another animal. I see a lot of cash games are 100-300 buy in. I'd be around there. And I'm staying at the Wynn so I'll be looking to play there. Never played in a tournament.
     
  6. sigsev

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    I'd just play cash games then. Don't worry about the quality of opponents and such, it's not like you'll be playing Barry Greenstein at 1-3 NL. There's plenty of tourists amid the strong players, so if you're decent you'll have a good shot.

    You can play a small stakes tourney for kicks but structures are often turbo style and if you don't have a good handle on the nuances of tourneys like bubble play and big stack vs small stack play then you might as well just stick to ring games.

    Wynn is a nice place to play. If you get a seat facing the hallway you can watch the eye candy go by on their way to the clubs or the parking garage.
     
  7. DoctorPong

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    This is solid advice. Thinking I'll stick to cash game too.
     
  8. bribhoy

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    If you decide that you've bust often enough in the cash game, and want some decent length of time playing poker for your money, I highly recommend Aria's daily 1pm tourney. You get 30 minute blinds, a 25-50 first blind level, and a 10,000 starting stack for a $125 buy-in. If you go deep in that, you can expect to be playing 7 to 8 hours of poker. Usually around 100 runners so a $10k prize pool.

    You don't say when in July you'll be there, but the WSOP is running over at the Rio until July 14. While you won't want to be playing the $10,000 Main Event, what that means is that for the first half of July, there will be a LOT of players playing cash and tourneys all over Vegas. A lot of casinos will be running tournament series at the same time as the WSOP as well, so keep an eye open for special events when you're there.
     
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    I say pick any room you like, sit at a 1/2 1/3 NL table buy in for 200/300 bucks and see if Vegas is what you were hoping it would be! The problem i find for me personally tournaments are a legit couple hour deal if you're a decent player, some times after an hour or 2 something comes up and you may want to take off. in a tourney situation your stuck till its over cash game you can dip whenever!
     
  10. broncofn

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    Im not a poker player anymore but used to play 5/10 NL in vegas (caesars and wynn mostly) and above in home poker games (50/100) Ive won a borgata tourney and played in some wsop tourneys and actually cashed some but not much. A buddy of mine is actually a pro player in vegas (plee has met him) and its not a great life.

    My suggestion is to just have fun and hope to get lucky in some smaller tourneys. I would play a 1/2, 1/3 or 2/5 (some 5/10 games are actually softer in vegas than 2/5) cash games as a first time player depending on your level of skill/bankroll but you are the only one who knows what you are comfortable with.

    Also, the games are not soft in certain poker rooms anymore.
     
  11. bigalbr

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    If you're a cash game player, play cash. I'm not sure how Missouri plays, but Vegas is generally a tougher game than Louisiana. Still beatable, but not the donkfest that some of the online players make it out to be if you're actually used to loose live play.
     
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    IMO play cash. Table selection is everything, and if you're just getting your feet wet it's good to sit at a friendly/alive cash game have some fun bs with people and win a little money.
     
  13. DoctorPong

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    This is all good advice, fellas. I am reading good things about the action at the wynn. Always fun to play where you stay. I suppose it runs a cash game most hours? Or all the time?
     
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    Pretty much all the time, though maybe not all limits/blinds all the time.

    Also, I second what was said earlier about table/game selection being everything in cash games. It's easier to change games in a bigger room like Venetian, but it can be done at other rooms too.
     
  15. jimmysnow

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    Also small buy in tournaments have really high rake.
     
  16. tringlomane

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    If you play in St. Louis, you should be fine in Vegas. STL is tougher than Vegas overall from the impression I get. People on 2+2 Poker complain constantly on how tough of a market STL is. I can't speak for Wynn's game quality specifically. I've played a little NL at Venetian in the past and it didn't seem any more difficult than STL.
     
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    Wynn is a nice room-good drink service and food can be ordered. also what is nice comfort wise-tables are usually 9 seats, as mentioned earlier, depending when in July you come there are several tournament series going on.including the wynn

    http://wynnpoker.com/wynn_summer_classic15.cfm
     
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    He'll be coming at the beginning of July right before the main event according to his countdown. May want to consider playing at the Rio too. But have no idea how tough those games during the WSOP are. Venetian will also have plenty of action within walking distance.
     
  19. bigalbr

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    The good news is you are close to the Venetian if Wynn's not good. Venetian is a great room.
     
  20. jimmysnow

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    The softest games of the year is during the wsop. Dont forget Aria, Planet, Venetian, Nugget, Binions, and M all have tournament series going as well.
     
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