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Canadian living in UK, how to avoid the tax?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by softshellcraps, Nov 18, 2015.

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  1. softshellcraps

    softshellcraps Newbie

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    I'm a long term permanent resident of the UK, but still a Canadian passport holder, and don't have a UK passport yet (by choice, I am eligible)

    When I receive a hand pay, I've tried to offer my UK drivers licence as ID, but the casino has always insisted on my passport, after which seeing it is issued by Canada, I'm taxed 30%.
    For those who don't know, the UK has a tax treaty with the USA where no tax is payable on gabling wins.

    So, given that I haven't lived in Canada for over 10 years, and have no taxable assets in Canada, and therefore haven't filed tax there, but do file tax returns in the UK:

    1. Am I eligible for the UK tax treaty?
    2. If so, do I have to file to get it back at the end of the year, or is there something I can do to mitigate this now, and be treated as a UK taxpayer?
     
  2. Jordan

    Jordan Caveman

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    Don't know exactly how your UK taxes would work, but as a Canadian citizen, you have to apply for an ITIN number and file your taxes with the IRS, nothing to do with Canadian taxes.
    There is a massive delay on that right now, good luck!
     
  3. softshellcraps

    softshellcraps Newbie

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    I spent a few years living on a green card in the USA as a young child, so my parents had applied for a SSN, which I have, so no ITIN number needed.
    While I completely appreciate that the taxes are filed with the IRS, the tax treaty that's applied to me as a foreigner would usually be the country of tax domicile, which for me is the UK.
    If I held a UK passport, the casino wouldn't even deduct the tax.
     
  4. 44inarow

    44inarow VIP Whale

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    Unfortunately, this is going to be a question for a tax professional rather than a message board. These are fairly complex legal questions, and if the casino is insisting that a driver's license is no good (which is understandable -- even in the US, I have plenty of friends who've lived in a particular state for decades but still have a license from wherever they grew up), then you're going to need more than just our say-so. Either way, the front-line casino staffers are going to do whatever they do and not be swayed by any arguments, so your bigger concern is going to be how to make sure you can recover whatever they insist must be withheld.
     
  5. pd54

    pd54 Low-Roller

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    Can you not just get a UK passport, hold both Canadian and UK, and then produce the UK passport in Vegas on request?

    I would guess that as a UK tax payer you are eligible for the UK tax rights, so should get a refund. Have you tried to contact HMRC?
     
  6. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    you can only do that as a dual citizen, which the OP is not.

    that really only applies to children who are born in one country to citizens of another and they get dual citizenship.
     
  7. scottydoog

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    I have used my UK drivers license, but I have a ITIN number, and to get that, I had to produce my UK passport. Never had any real grief getting a hand pay, but Harrahs took about 45 minutes to come back with the cash one time. Never had any deductions made since I got my ITIN number.
     
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