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Business Casual... Dark Jeans ok?

Discussion in 'Restaurants & Buffets' started by DeMoN2318, Nov 20, 2013.

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  1. DeMoN2318

    DeMoN2318 The DERS

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    If a restaurant says its "Business Casual" will dark jeans and a dress shirt be acceptable?

    Will they refuse me service if I wear jeans?
     
  2. wigwam_salesman

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    I can't see that being a problem at all. At the most you might have to tuck your shirt in.

    I work in the creative industry though, my idea of business casual is shorts and tshirt in summer so I might be a bit off base lol.
     
  3. ardee

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    Wear something other than sneakers or flip-flops and you'll be fine. I've never had a restaurant in town turn me away for wearing black jeans, decent shoes and a subdued Hawaiian shirt. Of course it helps that I'm always with a gorgeous blonde. :D
     
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  4. JustNgo

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    Unfortunately, Las Vegas is generally very casual with their dress code enforcement for restaurants. Very few will refuse service for those that are under-dressed. I've seen people wear sweatshirts and jeans to fine dining in Vegas...
     
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    Dress codes seem to merely be suggestions in LV. You will be amazed at what folks wear and get away with it.

    Dont forget cargo shorts and flip flops are the official uniform of the American traveler.
     
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    Absolutely! I tire of the "snooty, shoots" who harken back to the days when Eisenhower was President and a coat and tie was required to just walk out front to pick up the paper. I'm far more concerned with how one acts than how they're dressed.
     
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    While I'm all for casual vacationing, I'm of the opinion hat one should be dressed up for fine dining. I wish some of the nicer restaurants enforced at least a loose dress code. It ruins the experience when you go to a nice restaurant and there are people in flip flops, cutoff jeans, and a t-shirt.
     
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    The OP is talking about dark jeans and a dress shirt. Not jorts and a t-shirt. He's absolutely fine and not underdressed.
     
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    I hear ya... I'm in no way advocating a "free for all" and I can go for the loose dress-code notion, I just can't support those who feel dinner is a "must" fancy dress-up occasion, though I'm totally cool with those who do.

    In a town like Las Vegas where it's often well over 100, some tolerance I feel has to be made for nice looking shorts and a decent shirt. I don't mean like you just got off the treadmill in the workout room, but I think there's a middle ground.
     
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    I agree, I addressed that in an earlier post. I was referring to smartone's post, and to a lesser extent, captainron's comment about flip flops and shorts in Las Vegas. This is supported by my use of the quotation feature.

    My gf and I were in Las Vegas in July, when well into the 100s, and I actually didn't have an issue with wearing a dress shirt and jacket outside (I'm originally from the desert and it didn't feel that bad to me, but I recognize that this isn't the case for everyone). It's my opinion that if you go into a fine dining restaurant (and I mean when you are spending >$150/person), you should never wear shorts. Nice jeans would be the minimum, and even that's pushing it. It really does kill the ambiance when you see someone in casual clothing in the dining area in these situations. I do recognize that if the restaurant allows it, the diner is free to do as they wish, but it's a courtesy to others that you don't ruin their dining experience, just as you shouldn't use your phone in a movie theater.
     
  11. justmare

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    I've never understood why it bothers anyone how another diner in a restaurant is dressed. You should be paying attention to the other parties at your table, not judging others for how they dress.

    Sorry, just a super huge pet peeve of mine.
     
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    It's not about judging, if they are in your view, and it doesn't fit in with the surroundings, it brings down the ambiance. As I said earlier, it's like someone playing with their phone at a movie theater to me.
     
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    +1. This outfit will pretty much get you in to any restaurant or nightclub as long as wear some nice dress shoes with it. The only exception is if the restaurant have a jacket requirement.
     
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    I would have thought that the use of a phone in a movie theatre has no similarity to what diners wear in a restaurant.

    When one goes to a movie it is to watch and listen to a movie. A phone ringing and a person holding a conversation directly interfere with the main reason for which everyone is there.

    Most people go to restaurants to enjoy the food and wine and the company they are with. What someone at another table is wearing in no way interferes with the main purpose of your night out.

    If I only like dining in rooms with people wearing bow ties I should frequent a place that has and enforces such a code.

    I personally would find it distasteful to dine in a room with people putting their bare feet up on the table but my response to such a situation would be to leave and go to a place that fit with my expectations not expecting others to change their behaviour to meet my wishes.
     
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    Agreed.

    Business casual also depends on where you are going.

    It works even at the office....if you have dress-down Friday (wearing jeans and a nice shirt).

    T-shirts? No.

    In other cases, it's better to go with slacks. Ya don't go into a business casual meeting with jeans on and wear dress shoes and every case, the jeans should be dark.
     
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    I meant the use of phones for texting or web browsing during a movie. The light in a dark movie theater is very obtrusive. Fine dining is much more than just about the food and drinks. I can say, for me at least, I've found a difference in experience between the restaurants that are open to the casino floor and those that are more closed off. Just as music does nothing to change the way your food tastes, inappropriate music played at a fine dining establishment can ruin your overall experience.

    Most of these restaurants do have a dress code, they just don't enforce it nearly as strictly (if at all) as they do in other cities. Just because they don't enforce the rule doesn't mean you should ignore it.

    Maybe I'm in the minority on this, but I will say it does have an effect on my dining experience as a whole, but I don't think it's about "being snooty".
     
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    These are no-win threads. The best answer I can come up with is -- call the flipping' restaurant in question. Every single one of us here can come up with an experience where a supposed dress code was ignored. But I also can think of many places in Vegas where it has been enforced to the letter.

    I have my own thoughts on jeans. Not relevant to this thread. And for the record, I am one of the most casual people I know. I live in a part of the world with a good climate, by the beach, and I write about golf and travel for a living. My go-to ensemble is shorts, golf shirt and Sanuks or slippahs. I also respect that what will fly in a high-ticket eatery in Hawaii won't get you through the service entrance of places in NYC. Neither is snooty nor slovenly. I am perfectly accepting of both.

    Folks getting worked up over others who think appearance and attire matter might as well get worked up over folks who think Picasso or Joel Robuchon should not be decorated like McDs. What IS ambience? Exactly.
     
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    Nice jeans should be okay. I second the other member who suggested that the shoes are just as important. Jeans and tennis shoes - no. Jeans and loafers - okay.

    And for the rest of the chatter here.... I'm closing this thread now.
     
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