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Table Games BonuS Craps: Another Way to Lose Your Money

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by sco5123, Oct 9, 2012.

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  1. sco5123

    sco5123 VIP Whale

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    http://www.vegaschatter.com/story/2012/10/9/12595/1855/vegas-travel/New+Craps+Bonus+Bets+Are+Out

    OK, so if you roll all small numbers but happen to roll a couple "tall" numbers, do you get paid for "all small" bet? That is, is the "all small" bet exclusive of "all tall" numbers? Sure the odds are terrible but I could place one $5 the entire roll for a couple rolls and just soak up the ambiance of the game without getting kicked off (lol I once watched a BJ game for an hour before the pit boss asked me to give up my seat)!

    Interesante.
     
  2. mike_m235

    mike_m235 Tourist

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    Generally speaking they're going to want you to have a pass line bet to bet the middle of the table. But if a craps table isn't busy, you can kind of just hang around anyway. Happens all the time.

    And given some crews I've played with, you better watch them to make sure they remember to mark the numbers.

    Edit: The house advantage on either the small or tall is 11.4%. On the all or nothing it's 8.5%.
     
  3. housdoc

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    Yes, roll 2,3,4,5,6 and pays...roll 8,9,10,11,12 and it pays roll all of them and get paid on SMALL, TALL, and ALL. Remember they have to be rolled before a 7. Rolling a 7 starts it over ever on a come out. Most Casinos you have to have a Pass Line bet to play.
     
  4. sco5123

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    But if you roll 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and then 8, 9, and 10 only, does it still count as all small? You got all the small numbers but the entire roll was not only small numbers. Do you still get paid if so?


    Oh ok, if there is a line bet then no fun for me then. lol
     
  5. bubbamsu

    bubbamsu Low-Roller

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    I would say YES on the small #s bet, since they were are rolled prior to 7-out.

    I would also assume that a pass/don't pass line bet would need to be made in order to play the small,high,all/none bets. Just like a Fire Bet.
     
  6. craps1

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    These have been out for some time now at certain properties. I played them in March and June.
     
  7. yoyoseven

    yoyoseven Low-Roller

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    Yes, the all, tall, and small bets are three separate, independent bets.
     
  8. Rounder

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    I will give them a try on my upcoming trip to LV mainly because I like the odds.For the most part I restrict myself to 1-2 no limit texas hold-em
    but I do love to play craps and I will definatly do so when I am there.
     
  9. theotherone

    theotherone Low-Roller

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    I have sat and played firebet ONLY without a passline dozens of times. For ex. If I'm betting passline and a few place bets a while, then I don't "feel" a shooter will do well but I don't want to leave ill put s $1 on the firebet and hangout a while. I doubt I could walk right up to a table and do this though.
    Did the same st Gold Strike with the bonus craps but not as long: I'd put a dollar on each the A/T/S and wait. Or maybe $1 on T/S and $3 on All.

    Like others said each bet is independent so if you had $ on the all only and all small numbers hit, then 8,9,10, 7, you will NOT get paid. To get paid you'd have to have at least $1 on the small itself.

    On a side note does anyone know if any casinos in St Louis offer the ATS bet?

    Good luck!
     
  10. LV_Bound

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    NYNY has had this for a while. I rarely play it, but one morning I was at the table shooting and these 3 guy had $10 on each. The five was the last number I needed and those 3 guy went wild when I hit it.
    Needless to say I didn't have any money on it. :cry:
     
  11. tora

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    just hit it all

    Was at Aria on Sunday. Put $10 + $1 (dealer) on the Small, All, Tall bet.

    Young shooter put a $1 on each for himself. He hits the Small and we are thrilled to win: shooter $35, dealer $35 and I win $350!

    Dice is empty so before you know it its the Young Shooters turn again. We both make the same bet. This time he hits the Tall first. We are happy but not as happy as the first time after all, he already hit the Small his first roll. A few more rolls and we need the "2" or as the the dealer and I are both screaming "ACES!!!". He throws three ace / deuces and the dealer and I are getting excited. He tosses a high arching one which bounces and hits the arm of the other base dealer. The dealer on my side says "nooo!!!" but its a 6 and we dodge a bullet. We are screaming for ACES when the shooter hits the opposite wall, both die are headed our way and in dramatic, surreal fashion a pair of ACES!!!! The dealer, the Young Shooter and I exchange genuine high fives of joy and the game stops to pay the $2100. I realize its a fools bet but it sure was fun and the Aria Dealers, who are normally cool and professional really got into that roll. Gotta love it!!:beer:
     
  12. MikeOPensacola

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    My rule of thumb is that any new fangled game the casino throws at us is just another way for them to gain more revenue. I know this seems obvious but since I lost a ton of dough making the side bets on Carribean stud poker I have stuck to just making the standard low percentage (for the house) bets at craps and playing good blackjack games. All the new table games are simply gimmicks and I avoid them at all costs.....:peace:
     
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  13. stackinchips

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    A few things to mention:

    This game has been out for quite a while now. It's been at Wynncore for at least two years now. I actually prefer this to the firebet, because you almost immediately start getting entertainment value out of it, where the firebet you have to get the 4th point set before you really start caring.


    You certainly can play this and the firebet without a pass line bet. However, you'll have to either have been playing for a while and/or throw out an occasional field bet, hardway, place bet, etc. You won't be able to walk up to a table and play this bet with no other action.

    While the house advantage on this and the firebet are "sucker bets", both provide more entertainment value than any other bet in the casino. When you get to the last number, you get really excited about every roll and the anticipation is really fun. If someone can come up with a bet with a bigger entertainment value in the casino, I'd like to hear about it. In the end I'm there for fun, and these side craps bets provide just that.
     
  14. tora

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    Complete agreement with StacknChips. I go to Vegas twice a year and I crave the rush, camaraderie and thrill of a smoking hot crap table. It sure didn't take long to experience the adrenaline rush of the Small-Tall-All Bet. It was pure joy when he that Young Shooter rolled the last number 2.

    6 Point Firebets take time. Even marking the 6th point is a fricken rush but making the 6th point is the ultimate rush. I've won the 6 Point Fire twice. Once for $5 and once for $10, and always a $1 for the Boys who get into it too, and its always so much fun for the entire table. It sooo much fun that I think I may need rehab as I need hit another Firebet or Small-Tall-All Bet to satisfy.

    Parlayed Hardways (6 or 8) $10-$100-$1000 are also a rush. Again always piggyback and parlay a $1 for the Boys. Nailing that third hardways is quite rush tooo!

    Damn, I cant wait to go back/
     
  15. jhpa

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    These bets ar elong shots and do not win often. But when they do, it is electric - if you are on it. Considering how I throw $1 chips around a craps table, it is worth it to have these bets in play.
     
  16. tora

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    Electric! Thats a great description. Also last week, our family of 8 managed to get on the same table at Ballys. we all love the Fire and everyone had $5 + $1 dealer and I had $10 + $1 dealer so the dealers had a nice stack for them. I quickly made the 4 Inside numbers and marked the 10 (5th number). Electricity was in the air. After marking the 10, it took 12 rolls, unfortunately no 10, before seven-out. Every roll was "Electric" with anticipation. Made a $1200 6 during that roll but the family and dealers were all thinking 10.

    Yes, its a long shot but its Entertainment and that's why I go to Vegas!

    Side note: I heard the guy that invented the Fire Bet was recently in Vegas. He sold the Fire Bet to IGT for $4 Million. I am sure he was happy with that!
     
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