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Table Games Blackjack Betting System

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by maineguy, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. maineguy

    maineguy Low-Roller

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    Do you use a betting system?? If so....please share it here.
    I have found that flat betting allows you to play for hours....but rarely wins much.
    I have been trying a progressive system that seems to work, except when dealer is winning most of the hands (DUH!!!!) It's a 2-1-2-3-4-5.
    What do you think?...I should add I am a low roller.
     
  2. mescalita

    mescalita Low-Roller

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  3. maineguy

    maineguy Low-Roller

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    I understand that no betting system really works in long run....but don't you go into a game with a general betting plan??...or are you completely reactive??? I'm just trying to bet with a chance at winning.....not betting willy nilly!
     
  4. hotreds

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    Boy, oh, boy, have I spent hours researching this subject. Bottom line is- alas- that the safest- and most boring- way to bet is to flat bet. In the long run, you lose no matter what you do, but by flat betting you'll likely delay that loss. I'm assuming yours is a positive progression? It seems to me this is probably the best way to bet if you want a little more excitement when you play. And, if you lose, you won't go down the drain as quickly as if you were using a negative progression. The sad truth is that probability doesn't change, a coin lands on either side 50% of the time. IF it has landed on its head 30 straight times, the probability is still 50% that it will land on its head a 31st time. I used to spend hours practicing playing BJ until I realized that I was wasting my time(after I learned basic strategy cold) since my results could/would not be duplicated. Mescalita gave you a good site to check out, there are many others. Your progression(if it is a positive one) is as good as any other.
     
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  5. thecarve

    thecarve Misanthrope

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    "Willy nilly" betting is for fools but a "betting plan" gives you a chance of winning? Sigh.
     
  6. Damdog

    Damdog Tourist

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    I've decided not to call the way I bet progressive betting. I prefer to call it pressing my bets. The above link to the wizards of odds will tell you that betting systems don't work. People are quick to point out this fact when the topic is brought up but pressing your when winning seems acceptable. It's certainly more exciting and I've had a fair amount of success. 1-1-1.5-1.5-2-2-3-3-5-5-7-7-10
     
  7. blackjacker2

    blackjacker2 Low-Roller

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    Hi

    You have some good advice already, but unless you take the hard route and learn to count cards, the math dictates you are going to lose. Even when you do count effectively there is a chance you could backed off so it really depends what you want from your blackjack sessions. In the early days I had some great fun flat betting, but it really got me nowhere, I've tried counting to no great effect (it is hard work) and these days I use a personally modified progression system and have had some good results - I'm not kidding myself though, I cannot beat the house with that approach.

    I love to play blackjack, I meet some great people and if I hit some positive variance I make a profit. When I hit a negative variance I have a loss limit and walk away.

    good luck!:wave:
     
  8. hotreds

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    Another very important point above: Set both positive and negative limits. And don't get greedy! I once was up $300 and thought it would be nice to be up $500. Ended up down $200. So, know when to stop! Even if you just get up to pee, start a new session after you reach either limit!
     
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  9. Damdog

    Damdog Tourist

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    Well said blackjacker. I totally agree.
     
  10. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    The best blackjack system is tied to your table position. It really reduces your losses considerably. You may not get any big wins, but trust me, your bankroll will stay intact. Okay, as to the proper table position, here you go. Approach the table and observe the betting habits of other players. Identify the player that is staying even or building his stack. Stand about 2 foot behind him and don't move.
     
  11. dhlamar

    dhlamar Low-Roller

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    I guess this is a progressive beating system, but what I have read and practice is to press up your bet by the denomination you start out betting with. If you are betting $25 a hand you keep betting that until you win a hand, once you win you take that $25 and make your next hand $50. If you win that hand you take your $50 win and put $25 on next hand to make it a $75 bet while putting $25 to the side. If you win the next hand you take your $75 win pocket $50 and make your next bet $100 and you keep going until you lose and then start back over at $25. Works out kinda good if you go on a couple good long win streaks and you know when to say when of course that's my problem I don't know when to get up plus I'm always waiting for that next drink!!!!
     
  12. PTC Larry

    PTC Larry Low-Roller

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    I use this same betting strategy but one night I had too many cocktails and I was winning and kept betting all but one chip. When I realized that I was betting a lot of money I quit and walked away with a ton of money. Very lucky and could never do that again.
     
  13. demolition

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    This is something I might try in Vegas or AC where there are a lot of tables and casinos. Play at a table until you are up 50%of your initial buy in. Go to another table and do it again. Keep doing this over and over again. I think we all can agree that when we play we can usually get up 50% of our buy in at some point at each table. The goal is to win a little at a time at a lot of tables
     
  14. blissfulignoramus

    blissfulignoramus Low-Roller

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    This is essentially what I do. You will be 50% up more often than lose the whole buy-in. However, you have to be prepared to lose the entire buy-in.
     
  15. topcard

    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    The only reason you should ever change your 'base bet' is because of the cards that have already been dealt. If an unusually high percentage of dealt cards have been smalller cards (2-6), increase your bet. If they have been larger cards (10s & Aces), then decrease your bet.
    A remaining deck that is disproportionally "10-rich" is to your advantage.

    Some have asked me how this can be, since the dealer has the same "edge" in such situations.
    The answer is simpler than you might think - it's because your odds of receiving a two-card "pat-hand" (17+) are higher.
    The house's greatest single advantage is that, if you hit & bust... and then the dealer hits and busts, you still lose.
    By not needing to take a hit, you take away that huge house advantage...so, more tens & aces means you are far more likely to have a pat-hand.
    (... also, if you get a blackjack, you're paid 3:2...if the dealer gets one, you only lose your original bet).

    You can test this: Get a deck of cards and remove all of the smaller cards (2-6). Then deal the game as if in a casino. Play your hands with the knowledge you possess of the makeup of the deck.
    I can almost guarantee that you will win.
    Sure, you'll still get the occasional 9-7 and lose, but mostly, you're going to push.. a LOT... but you will take 'insurance' on every dealer Ace, and you will win 3:2 on (almost) every one of your blackjacks.
     
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  16. dhlamar

    dhlamar Low-Roller

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    What is the purpose if moving to another table when all you have to do is put the money in you pocket and keep on playing?
     
  17. spdandpwr

    spdandpwr Low-Roller

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    I like the thinking here. Only thing that throws me off is the volume of cards: they're shuffling anywhere between 6-8 decks which means you really need to pay attention to the count.
     
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    Fafa2e Low-Roller

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    I use a progressive betting system, but I do not expect it to result in long-term winnings. The reason to use a progressive betting system is the chance for a short-term significant win. I realize that any money that I win is my money, but if I buy into a table with $500 and I am up $250, I look at the $250 as house money and I am no worse off if I lose the $250 I've won. So when I win a bet, I will add a portion of the win to my bet.

    The system I currently use is to start with minimum bet $25 add $5 after first win, then $10 after each successive win, increase to $20 addition once bet reaches $100, until I lose, then drop back to minimum. The big killer using a progressive system are failed split/double down situations that could wipe out all previous winnings if you are at the higher end of the progression scale.
     
  19. hotreds

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    That's why some of these don't recommend splitting or doubling down. What's hard for me is to remember that even after five winners, the next cards could just as easily be a 6th winner as a first loser. Nonetheless, I usually stop my positive progression after five wins.
     
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  20. jughead1963

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    My system is......It's not gambling, if you know your are gonna win!
     
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