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Table Games BJ strategy card at the table

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by pokerbucketlist, Oct 13, 2014.

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  1. pokerbucketlist

    pokerbucketlist Low-Roller

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    Hi,

    I'm close to memorizing basic strategy , but after a few drinks plus with all the distractions around it's not easy to get it 100%. (Soft 19 vs 6 is a double against a h17 table!) Why do we not see more players with the basic strategy cheat sheets at the table? Is there a stigma about being 'that nerdy numbers guy'?

    It seems with all the talk about house edge and minimizing it, this would be the easiest thing to do.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Probably a bit of a stigma. If you have to refer to it a lot, then you look new/slow down the game. Strategy cards may take away an element of "gambling" for some. Some players may not even realize strategy cards are allowed.

    And the main reasons for very few strategy cards, laziness and gaming math stupidity. Casinos have a massive edge on Ultimate Texas Holdem thanks to this.
     
  3. bardolator

    bardolator Lifelong Low Roller

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    Use the card while you are working to perfect your strategy. BJ players want to look like they know what they're doing. Instead, most prove their ignorance in 10 minutes or less. Slowing down the game is doing them a favor, and if pressed, I would tell them so.
     
  4. dutchvelvet

    dutchvelvet VIP Whale

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    Nothing wrong at all with carrying one around. I've played thousands of hands of blackjack and I generally put one in my back pocket when I'm in Vegas. I pull it out once or twice a trip when someone asks for advice. I like to do that because that way it's not "me" telling them to double that soft 18, its the card and the math wizards behind it. It's not uncommon that I'll actually just let someone newer (often the SO of a green/black chip player that is at the table) just play off the card. Also good when you're switching rules, you can learn the minor differences.

    Best cards I know of are these.

    http://www.amazon.com/Set-Blackjack-Basic-Strategy-Cards/dp/098211916X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1413205752&sr=8-2&keywords=blackjack+basic+strategy+card

    13 bucks and it covers both 2 deck and shoe H17 and S17.
     
  5. SW

    SW Well-Known Member

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    I also use a strategy card as needed. Nothing wrong with playing to the best of your ability with a little assistance now and then.
     
  6. blackjacknut

    blackjacknut VIP Whale

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    I don't use one, I use other strategies :evillaugh but I will tell you if there is a person at the table that is new to counting he/she will thank you for slowing the game down by using a strategy card. A few years back I didn't mind having someone use a strategy card at my table, still don't for the most part.
     
  7. topcard

    topcard Older than the Stardust!

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    I created my own card for the plays that tend to baffle me when a bit drunk (and baffle other players frequently).
    The A7 plays... the other soft doubles... the differences when DAS is allowed and when it's not.
    That's it.
    I pull the card out whenever I'm not certain - and, while rare, that does happen from time to time.
    Far more often, I'll pull it out when another player asks me, "what's the right play here?" (and it's almost always one of those hands).
    I'll tell them & pull out my card to show them.
     
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  8. Snidely

    Snidely VIP Whale

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    Wear one of these:

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  9. blackjacknut

    blackjacknut VIP Whale

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  10. seviay

    seviay High-Roller

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    I think the answer is that the players who care enough about using a strategy card probably memorize it or know most of it by heart and leave the card in their pocket/wallet in case they need to reference it, while the casual players either don't know or don't care about the basic strategy cards and are just there to have fun and get "free" drinks.
    I don't think there's a stigma attached to having a basic strategy card, but maybe I'm wrong
     
  11. Royal Flusher

    Royal Flusher Savvy Gambler

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    Then there's the Royal Flusher Black-EZ-Jack Strategy Card for quick reference at a busy table.

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  12. Hobofrank

    Hobofrank Prime Minister of Idiocracy

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    Nice just ordered those, this website makes me spend too much money, LOL
     
  13. Scottndindy

    Scottndindy Low-Roller

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    Where do I get the blackjack strategy t-shirt?
     
  14. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Malibugolfer High-Roller

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    If someone checking the card results in more accurate and consistent play then I think that's a better result than someone who is totally clueless and plays like it.
    I enjoy a table with other players who make the proper plays even though over time it doesn't matter to my win-loss.
     
  16. flyguyfl

    flyguyfl Low-Roller

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    I always carry a small one and will use it on occasion, but rarely.
     
  17. flysrb

    flysrb Hey Now!

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    Hey Now!
    Considering that I've been cussed out in at least 4 languages at 3rd base for playing correctly, if I'm asked I'll say
    "Sure, go ahead and split those 10's"
     
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  18. mrem3200

    mrem3200 High-Roller

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    It doesn't bother me at all if someone uses one, it slows down the game and helps the rating. I don't know why someone wouldn't use one if they thought it would help. The casinos don't care since they sell them in the gift shop.
     
  19. lulli

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    I had a different experience in January.

    At a full table in Palazzo they had no problem with me using my
    strategy card but next day at Wynn at an empty table I was
    told, that these cards are not allowed.

    I will try again in January at Wynn if the cards are allowed or not.

    As most replied. I never give any advice. If someone needs help,
    I will just give my strategy card or tell them what the perfect
    play is according to the books.
     
  20. bardolator

    bardolator Lifelong Low Roller

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    Man, that t-shirt would shut up a few bozos! Good point about less than skillful counters liking a slow pace. Been there.
     
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