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Best way to get comps at CET after using them all

Discussion in 'Comps' started by max85, Feb 28, 2016.

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  1. max85

    max85 Tourist

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    Hey guys
    Why I started going to Vegas about 10'trips ago I played a little slots on my CET card and then received up to 5 comp nights at most resorts through 2013 and 2014. Now, after using the comps and not playing on the card I only get slightly discounted rooms.

    What would be the best way to get comp rooms again on the same card?

    A certain amount of coin in?
    Slots or VP or table games?
    How much play?

    Does it make a difference that I live in Australia?
    Cheers in advance
     
  2. DJ Ran

    DJ Ran High-Roller

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    Why would a property continue to offer you free rooms when you stayed there and gave them zero play? You destroyed your ATD. My advice, stay at a different property next trip in and gamble where you stay. Chances are you'll see offers within a couple months.
     
  3. spdandpwr

    spdandpwr Low-Roller

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    forgive me for asking but what does atd stand for?
     
  4. notfromconcentrate

    notfromconcentrate Low-Roller

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    It's ADT actually... and it stands for average daily theoretical.

    Say for instance you go to Las Vegas for three days, and you spend each day playing only one slot machine. Your numbers are as follows...

    Day one: $10k coin in on a 2% hold machine
    Day two: $14k coin in on a 1.5% hold machine
    Day three: $8k coin in on a 3% hold machine

    The idea behind "hold" is that it's how much the casino expects to make off of you based on their theoretical (or "theo" for short) win rate relative to your play.

    So, the machine you played on the first day, at a 2% hold, the casino will have expected to make $200 off of you. The second day represents $210, and the third day represents $240.

    In this trip, you'll have had $650 in theoretical losses. Whether you actually won or lost is immaterial to the casino. You get basically the same comps whether you've come away ahead or behind. Dividing the $650 number by three, that represents just under $217 in theoretical loss. Meaning that this is the figure they're using to assess their ability to comp you. How much of your "theo" each casino will give you depends heavily on the casino, your relationship with them/your host, and what kind of games you play.

    With a $217 ADT, I think you could probably expect to get a low-end room on some strip properties. The logic behind this is that if they're going to give you a $75 room, that's only 34.5% of your theoretical loss. Meaning that if you'll stick around and gamble some more since the room's free for you anyway, it works well for them (and even better for you if you come away a winner).
     
  5. max85

    max85 Tourist

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    thanks for the responses

    i agree, i dont expect them to give me free rooms forever, although that would be nice :)

    My experience with different games are that some properties dont even rate $25 per hand BJ but if i play $25 VP or a $5 slot you get alot more points.

    Therefore are slots or VP the best to play? I would have thought slots because the house edge is bigger so more profitable for the casino.

    Im staying at Vdara this trip so stay & play is not an option. Im finding Mlofe casinos are the same price as TR casinos now, simply because my offered rates at TR suck now
     
  6. vegasnut

    vegasnut Low-Roller

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    Well even for overseas players its possible to get diamond status and hold it
    As i dont play slots anymore its a lot harder for me though
    You as a slotplayer its easy to gain diamond in a couple of days( there are some bonusrewards if you earn a certain amount of tier/reward credits in one day) i managed not to play slots the last year( instead last trip i played some videpoker)
    Two trips a year or some 4 weeks of intensive play is necessary though so thats why you lost your status and your host could do less for you.......its all about the money and also about how much you play and what you play..a couple of years ago i was playing slots and it costed me quiet a bit and at that time i got suites in paris and a nice room in ceasars...after quitting slots and not loosing any money anymore( broke even last 1,5 year) no more suites..got a nice room though and happy with it. As i see it for all those perks you have payd for it its a consilation price
     
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