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Bellagio offer

Discussion in 'Comps' started by getnpaid, Jul 31, 2012.

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  1. getnpaid

    getnpaid Tourist

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    I'm a east coast player heading over to the Bellagio with my buddy in Sept. A host offered a comped 2 room penthouse, $350 FB per day per person (me and my buddy) and limo to and from the airport with VIP checkin for our 5 day stay. We never stayed or played at the Bellagio before and we go to vegas once a year at most. I'm wondering what level of play/average bet should 2 people be playing in order to get a offer like that. This is a upfront offer from the host just to get us in the door so I'm just curious. Is it low season around mid sept? or casinos there are desperate for new blood? I'm not worried about being overcomped since we do play a good amount but just curious how much do you need to wage to get offers like that.

    thxx
     
  2. 777

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    That's a very nice offer you are getting? Where did you usually play and what was your average bet?
     
  3. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Yes, what is your typical play?

    Have you played at any MGM casinos? Assume you have on past Vegas visits.
     
  4. getnpaid

    getnpaid Tourist

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    We play in Atlantic city in the east coast at CET properties.
    I never played at MGM casinos...

    My average is 200 - 1k per hand
    My buddy does 500 - 3k per hand
    We usually total with around 50k - 85k bankroll per trip.

    Do you think other casinos would be able to top that offer? We didn't speak with any other casinos.

    Although even if we do get better offer else where we wouldn't back out especially with our hosts being so nice to us.

    Thx
     
  5. jr7110

    jr7110 VIP Whale

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    When I first started playing at The Borgata in Atlantic City, I would get Bellagio offers because MGM was a part owner of Borgata (with Boyd Gaming)at the time. I am not sure how the hosts at Bellagio would have gotten your information (since you play at CET properties in Atlantic City and MGM no longer has any ties to AC. CET woudn't give out player information to rival MGM instead of their own Vegas properties ).

    But whatever the case, it seems like you do a lot of healthy play and you should definitely take advantage of the Bellagio offer. If you have any question about what will be expected of you, just call up and ask - you have every right to know what you are getting into. The Penthouse Suites at Bellagio are my favorite room in Vegas - try and ask for a Strip view if it is available. You will have a great time.
     
  6. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    You had mentioned past visits to Vegas. Where did you play then. If you bet at those levels, those casinos may be offering you even better deals.
     
  7. samsadan

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    Deducing from my experience: $2,000 average bet 3-4 hrs/day will get you penthouse or plus level suite (grand lake view suite) with at least $1,500 plus/day FB, spa/massage chrage pickup, $3-$7,500 promotion (much easier with slot plays but tight with table games), plus few other amenities (depending on one's preference..could be a bottle of Macalan 30, nice wines...).

    I play 80% high-limit slots and 20% or less BJ (30 min - 1 hr session, two hands between $1-$4,000 typically). Because I have so much w-2 (although you use accrual form in the high-limit room where each page/cumulative w-2 can takes 25 or more individual w-2s forms) and hated seeing the "phantom income," come tax time, I asked my host during June trip if I were to focus mainly on BJ what bet size do I need to get my level of treatment... and the answer was above.

    By the way, I am east coast player also (shifted from CET to Borgata and liking it much better...they use the $20,000 chip which is cute!)...If your bank roll is proximity of $100,000, you might as well put up $100,000 in front money and inquire airfare reimbursement, loss rabate (typically % of theo or actual--% of theo is larger) and promo based on theo before you head down to LV.

    Good luck!
     
  8. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    your combined play will be fine for a 2BR Pent. you only need $1500 avg bet 4 hours per day for that suite at RFB.

    IMO the Lakeview Pents at the B are some of the best accommodations in the city. the only other option i would consider is the Skylofts. you can get a 2BR Skyloft for the same $1500 avg and it's pretty sweet. the only problem with the Skylofts is that there are only so many of them, so on busy weekends, it's easy to get bumped out by $200k+ players. if you want to inquire about the Skylofts, let me know and i can get you in touch with my host.
     
  9. getnpaid

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    Thank you all for your input. I'm hoping to have a good time when we get there.

    Do you know if we're allowed to eat at any restaurants in Bellagio with the FB comp our host offered? including room service...
     
  10. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    The "per day" figure they use now pretty much applies everywhere. But, with your play, you will have two more ways to get your food and beverage covered. Either additional comps via your host, or through use of Express Comps. I assume you build up plenty with that play.

    Still curious - where else have you played in Vegas?
     
  11. getnpaid

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    I played very little in vegas and since I was with my family most of the time I did not play the way I usually do :)

    Bellagio reached out to my host here in the east cost and confirmed our plays which is how they know if thats what your curious about.

    thx!
     
  12. vegasgirl101

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    To my dismay, this isn't true actually.

    My host at CET asked me why I was playing at the Bellagio instead of Paris. I was like wtf, how do you know? She says, well you are giving them 500/hand action on BJ why not us.

    We are pretty tight, but still found it interesting how she got this info.
     
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  13. getnpaid

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    I actually provided my host details and told them its ok to do this. I don't pay for rooms or food here in the east coast and don't plan to when I go to vegas so they asked to verify our plays.

    But I agree, different casino hosts are somewhat connected and information are probably shared daily :)
     
  14. maximus56k

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    EXACTLY! I had an Mlife host check on my status, somehow, when I quit CET and moved before I could even locate the info for her! All those hosts collaborate.
     
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  15. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I think some people have contacts across the street, etc.
     
  16. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    yeah hosting is just a scratch your back game. the more people you know the better off you are.
     
  17. Naturaleight

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    By the way to the OP, MGM properties are a zillion times better than CET. I was a long time Diamond living in New York before I actually learned that Borgata and GN treat you a hundred times better than any CET. In my recent experience, MGM has been very helpful and generous with the comps, while CET has always been "by the book" when it comes to comps. Not to mention I hate supporting a company which tries to swindle players with 6:5 BJ.
     
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