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Table Games basic craps help

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by buckeyetodd, Nov 30, 2015.

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  1. buckeyetodd

    buckeyetodd Low-Roller

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    what I'm about to ask is probably so basic for you craps veterans but confusing or intimidating for me. I want to play craps, have wanted to for a long time but the tables here locally always seem full and I.....A)don't want to slow the game down.....B)throw my money away by playing like an idiot....C)want to win some cash...D)get knowledgeable about game

    I've watched some youtube videos but still am somewhat confused. so here is a scenario and I was hoping some of you that play craps could tell me what my next step is.

    $10 table....I put a $10 pass line bet up......come out roll is a 5, what is my next step? next roll is a 9, what is my next step? I've heard people talk about taking odds etc.. and any insight you all could pass along would be greatly appreciated.

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  2. BayouBengal

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    In your scenario, the point is 5. Once, the point is set you won't lose your pass line bet until a 7 is thrown. All other numbers are a push, and you'd win if 5 comes up again before a 7. Taking odds means making an additional bet that the point number will be hit. Your pass line bet will pay even money if it wins. The "odds" if you make that bet pay at the true odds of the number. In this case 5 pays 3 to 2. So let's say you bet $10 and then took $10 in odds as well. You will be paid, $10 for your pass line and $15 for your odds bet meaning a total win of $25 for $20 risked. You only make the odds bet if there is a point set and it's totally optional. Luckily $10 is an amount that will work for any point to get paid correctly.
     
  3. TriggerMN

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    Craps is a game where you can basically bet on any number to come up at any time. First off, it's totally okay to step in on a busy table, bet the pass line only, and ask the dealers or the other players for help. Everyone is very accommodating at a craps table. My wife plays ONLY the pass line.

    In your case, the best odds you can get at a craps table is in fact called the "odds" bet. If the point is set as a 5, you can do two things.

    1) Nothing. If the shooter rolls a 5 before he rolls a 7, you win $10 for your $10 bet. If the shooter rolls a 7 before a 5, you lose your $10.

    2) Place odds on the 5. Most casinos will let you place odds bets in the following manner. 5x if the point is a 6 or 8, 4x if the point is a 5 or 9, 3x if the point is a 4 or 10. So in your case, you can bet a maximium of $40 behind your $10 bet for odds. However, let's say you have a limited bankroll. You can put a $12 odds bet out behind your $10 pass line bet. Now you are risking $22. Again, if a 5 is rolled before the 7, you win both bets. You win $10 for your pass line bet, but you would win $18 for your $12 odds bet, as the "odds" are 3:2 on that bet. However, if a 7 is rolled before a 5, you lose all $22.
     
  4. buckeyetodd

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    Thanks guys, let me ask this, is backing up my pass line bet the only thing I want to do? Would I want to place additional bets prior to the second roll?
     
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    Todd, it all depends on how much you want to risk. Some players have lots of action, place bets on every number, and bet the prop bets in the middle of the table. My advice would be stick to a line bet and odds, at least until you have played some and are more comfortable with the game.
     
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    There are tons of things you CAN do.

    I would suggest when starting out, you keep it simple. It will keep you in the game longer and give you a feel/comfort level for how it is played.

    Also, most of the other things you could do pay worse. So you would not 'mathematically' want to do them until you had maxed out your odds bet.
     
  7. buckeyetodd

    buckeyetodd Low-Roller

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    Thanks again everyone, thinking about hitting Cincinnati Horseshoe on Thursday.
     
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    Years ago I was just like you. I wanted to learn to play but was intimidated.
    However, many of the casinos offer free gaming lessons. Find out if your hote/casino offers them. If they don't there are others on the strip that do.
     
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    Good luck on your endeavor! If you want to practice, I'm sure there are apps that you can use, but some of those apps might not have your conventional craps rules.

    For now try the pass line along with as much as you are comfortable or as much as the casino allows on odds. As others mentioned, pass line pays even money when won. $5 bet pays $5 if won (of course you also get your original bet back). When point is 6 or 8, it pays 6 to 5 which is $6 for every $5 bet if won. 5 or 7 pays 3 to 2 which is $15 for every $10bet if won. They only pay in increments of $1 so make sure you bet an even amount in dollars, i.e. $6, $8, $10, etc. when 5 or 7 is the point. When point is 4 or 10, it pays 2 to 1 which is $10 for every $5 bet if won.
     
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  11. FullPay

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    You want a pass line bet. First roll you win, 7,11, or you lose 2,3,12. Otherwise a point is established 4,5,6,8,9,10. Then back up the pass line bet with an odds bet. If you are not sure about the amount, ask. Then watch, repeat, get a drink, walk away happy. Like many things, get through the first time slow without making a major mistake and get better as you learn.
     
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    Just throw a couple black chips and tell them horn high yo.

    That's how you get started in dice.
     
  13. buckeyetodd

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    Might as well just make it purples
     
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    Why would you do this?
     
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    He's being sarcastic, I hope.

    The other suggestions sound pretty good for someone new to the game. I typically just play pass line with a bit of odds because I don't play much slash don't want big swings. You could also mess around with play money to get a grasp of how the game swings depending how many bets you made. For example Wizard of Odds has a practice game (note the practice game is much faster than casino play though). http://wizardofodds.com/play/craps/v2/

    Or you could try "Bubble Craps" if you're a bit intimidated. I dunno if Cincy has one of those though.
     
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    When I first started playing Craps I started out playing at $5 tables with a pass line bet for $5 and $10 odds along with a $6...6&8 (if 6 or 8 was the point I would hold off and just let $6 ride on the other number) once I started getting it I started putting out $5 Come bets with $10 odds, I played pretty conservative like that for a while and moved up $10 with max odds after a while. Scared money doesn't make money at the craps table, with max odds on a $10 table playing come bets you could have well over $200 out there at any given time, if you get a hot shooter your a hero, if not your a zero. I have seen many swings and when your loaded up your rack will fill up quick, I always keep a come bet out when I'm loaded up on all the numbers, this way I can keep all the numbers up there ( On a Come bet hit You''ll hear the dealers say on and off for $$$, that means you get all of your odds winnings and the # you hit stays active with odds). You can have a lot of $$$ out there doing this but on a hot table look out. I do play some sucker bets, Hard ways mostly and an occasional YO when the booze kicks in, but your really best off to limit these. Good luck and remember this is the best game in the house !!!
     
  17. buckeyetodd

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    Looking for another opinion from u guys, my brother mentioned a technique called the iron cross, I watched a couple videos, seems if a lot of 7s come after point is made u will run through the cash pretty quickly, any thoughts?
     
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    With a hot shooter you'll win some $$$$. All strategies I have seen include some kinda of hedge bet, what you really want to hope for is a hot shooter, 7 is gonna come, that's just numbers. I do like the fact that you can cover all the #'s and if your on a $5 table you can do it for $27 but on 6&8 (which hit more) your hedging your bet with the field and not getting the max pay out.I have a friend that plays pass line with odds and covers the rest of the #'s left once the point is made. For example on a $5 table she will put $5 on the Pass line, if a 6 hits she put down $10 odds (behind her pass line bet) and will place $5 on all 4,5,8,9.10 for a total of $41... $26(4,5,8,9.10)+$15 (Pass with odds) (You'll hear people say 26 across after a 6 or 8 is rolled on the come out, (keep in mind that 6&8 cost $6 to place and the rest of the #s cost $5) this is what they are referring to). If any numbers hit besides 6&8 she will go $27 across. It really doesn't matter IMHO you just want to be there at the right place and the right time for that Monster roll !!!! and then you'll be hooked !!! What a game when it's like that :drunk:
     
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