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Baltimore Horseshoe

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Trip Reports' started by LandryBalla9, Dec 20, 2014.

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  1. LandryBalla9

    LandryBalla9 High-Roller

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    My Trip Report

    So I've been a few times, and sure many others in the DMV have as well, but I decided to go again last night and actually 'play' instead of hit and run.

    Bankroll- $2k
    Game- Blackjack

    So I took the fun beltway and 95 after work last night, left at 8 but surprise still traffic, and got in at about 9. They have a very good selection of places to eat and drink here, a huge array of slots for those so inclined, and table games with an eclectic mix of beautiful chandeliers.

    Sat down at one of the $25 min tables (which comprise about 90% of the tables on Fri and Sat, the only others being a few 50s and 100+ in HL).

    Ended up playing for a bout 5 hours ( I believe as I drove home at about 2:30am and didn't have but a couple drinks, thankfully). Ended up about 1k.

    Notes: This has been an issue at the Horseshoe but the Pit management either: 1) doesn't know how to enter average bet, duration of play, etc. Because my Tier credits barely move up at all. I played for about 5 hours like I said and my avg bet was 75-125 per hand, yet I got about 170 tier credits? As Seth Meyers would have said had he still been on SNL, "really?"; or 2) somehow, Caesars can rate you vastly differently depending on either the casino/state for similar play elsewhere. The dealers are fantastic and engaging, however, and there's ample security so you feel safe, and even Baltimore PD (not sure how they finagled this). The Baltimore Brews bar downstairs has a good selection of local beers, and they have pretty good live music directly in the center of the casino (it goes through both floors if that makes sense also).

    Parking is free, as it should be, and it's really close access to the inner harbor area (parking does cost money when the Ravens are home but if you earn minimal tier credits it's free)

    The place, however, is absolutely beautiful. Much lighter than Maryland Live! for those who have been.

    As I haven't posted much in the past year (just moved to DC, still trying to get settled in job wise and the like) I don't know many folks in the DMV area so if anyone is so inclined to go play in the near future (I'm contemplating tonight actually..), give me a holler!

    Chris
     
  2. TheCooler

    TheCooler Professional Gambler and the Best Football Handica

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    This is the case at the Horseshoe in Hammond, IN as well. I can play BJ for several hours at 100-200 avg. bet and get a measly hundred or two tier credits.
     
  3. LandryBalla9

    LandryBalla9 High-Roller

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    It's annoying because whenever I go to AC or Vegas it's wildly different. 100 dollar hands at Paris over 6 hours will get you probably close to 1000 TC's.

    Was in Louisville for a wedding a few months ago and never got a chance to hit the Horseshoe in southern IN but glad I probably didn't haha
     
  4. DerbyCityGal

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    Thanks for sharing your trip report on Baltimore, we have been thinking about going sometime for a different trip. You were right to skip the Louisville trip to the Horseshoe!
     
  5. TheCooler

    TheCooler Professional Gambler and the Best Football Handica

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    Horseshoe Southern Indiana is a joke. Don't waste your time.
     
  6. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED !địt mẹ!

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    CET is just terrible for rating table game players...ESPECIALLY BlackJack (because if they see you're a "decent" player, then they assign virtually NO TC's; however if you play stupid and the side-bets, you'll get at least SOME TC)
     
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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    And the Maryland games should have a bit lower theo than Vegas/AC games too thanks to the state forcing S17.

    Do they allow surrender as well in Baltimore?
     
  8. Loston815

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    The bj tables does offer surrender. I also have received much lesser Tier credit and Rewards credits from Horseshoe than Harrahs AC with play being similar.
     
  9. Dr Nostron

    Dr Nostron Low-Roller

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    Anybody stay at the hotel or any of the surrounding hotels?
     
  10. 4ofakind

    4ofakind Tourist

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    Maryland, Delaware, N Y and elsewhere are V L T's.
    These video lottery terminals are precisely programmed in a secondary mainframe computer.
    I have this in writing from I G T Support. (Email)
    I G T sold out recently to the biggest V L T purveyor in the world.
    So does it hurt us ?
    Not sure, but playing V P (and slots) here in Maryland, especially on the "Game King" machines, you can notice the effects vs. playing in Vegas or A C.
    No magic genies but no true randomness either, like the "class III" machines.
    To me this explains why Tier points are calculated differently.
    Table games surely will reflect this with their "rules" and comps and well.
     
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  11. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Maryland slots and video poker behave just like Vegas. They are just called VLTs because the state lottery commission oversees the casinos. But they use the same game outcome selection processes that machines in Nevada do via random number generators, otherwise they are breaking state law. Hell for penny slots, Maryland is probably a better place to play because all games must be set to a minimum payback of 87%.

    VP generally has terrible paytables though in Maryland because slots/VP are taxed at a whopping 67% of gross revenue.

    As for New York lottery-run racinos like resorts world, genies exist and VP is worthless. But still good for a penny slotter as the minimum payback for each machine is the highest in the country at 90%. Conversely, Nevada is the lowest in the country at a minimum of 75% (machines are really never set that low though in major casinos).
     
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    Many convenient hotels nearby

    I stayed at the Inner Harbor Marriott (3-4 minute cab ride from Baltimore Horseshoe) for several nights in mid-November on a work trip and spent several hours at that casino on a Friday night. The OP's description is dead on. I spend about 3 hours at a roulette table ($10 min.) and received about 300 TC's. Beware that drinks on the casino floor are NOT free and you order on a screen on the machines and then settle up when the server brings your drink to you.
     
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    Dr Nostron Low-Roller

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  14. LandryBalla9

    LandryBalla9 High-Roller

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    Appreciate the responses guys. While it stinks that the tier credits are computed vastly different for comp purposes, it sure does beat the 3 hour and change drive for me to AC from DC. That being said, I'll likely be back to the Horseshoe this Saturday night and if anyone wants to meet up to say hi, it would be more than welcome!

    Chris
     
  15. 4ofakind

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    ah , no they dont per IGT.
    pm me i'll show you the letters.
    COMAR Maryland laws are vague.
     
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