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Baccarat Rating Question

Discussion in 'Comps' started by dragon7, Jan 25, 2013.

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  1. dragon7

    dragon7 Tourist

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    I was playing at $50 minimum a table over the weekend and there was a player to my left with a mound of chips. Probably $20,000 in purples, $5,000 in blacks and greens. I played about three shoes and during this whole time the guy played one purple chip and maybe a few black or green chips. No more than six or seven hands total. I pretty much play every hand during a shoe. Later that night he was still there with his mound of chips not really playing any hands.

    Is this guy getting rated for every shoe he sits thru? Casinos generally rate a shoe at 1 hour and assume people sit out hands, right? So I probably played 235 hands x $75 $17,625. This guy played < $1,000 total but the pitboss sees a purple chip and black chips when this guy bets and with the huge pile in front of him figures the guy is a big player.

    Do I get rated at a table minimum player while this player may very well be reated at $100-$500?
     
  2. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    he's only getting rated for partial shoes. if you skip a few hands in a shoe or less, you'll get credit for 1 hour of play. if you skip half the hands, you'll probably only get 30 minutes for a shoe. if you skip most every hand like it sounds like he was doing, you'll probably get 5-10 minutes of rating for that shoe. so, no, he's not getting 1 hour per shoe just sitting there.

    however, a lot of it depends on pit boss perception. if you skip a lot of hands, but the pit boss is busy or not paying attention, it's certainly possible to get rated for much more than you played. on the other hand if you skip a bunch of hands when the pit boss is watching and then play a bunch when he's not watching, you can end up getting screwed.
     
  3. mike_m235

    mike_m235 Tourist

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    How you get rated often has to do with perception, just like Shifter says. I've been overrated many times just for being a decent tipper and friendly to the staff.

    With this said, the bigger you are as a player, the more people are watching, so they're more likely (note, I'm not saying always...just more likely) to get it closer to accurate.

    I know people who will game their ratings at a blackjack table. They'll bet lower when the pit boss isn't looking and higher when they think he is. Of course the pit bosses have been doing this for a day or two, so they're not obvlivious.
     
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