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Aria Front Money

Discussion in 'Casino Gaming' started by bribhoy, May 8, 2015.

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  1. bribhoy

    bribhoy Low-Roller

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    Before I ask my question, I should supply some background. I waited a long time before I first visited Vegas (from the UK) last February. I loved it, and went back again in August and will be back again in June to play some WSOP events. Apart from the WSOP, when I will be staying at the Rio, I will have a few days out of town in the middle of nowhere, then come back and finish our two and a half week vacation with three nights at the Aria. I've already wired all of the WSOP entry fees, and will be carrying between 7 and 8 grand in cash for spending money. Any food, drink or room expense will be charged to the hotel so all cash is for gaming or non-hotel expenses (tips/taxis/dive bars etc) only.

    Because of previous spend, my room is being comped at Rio and 2 of 3 nights are comped at Aria. I could have had 3 nights comped elsewhere, but I LOVE Aria.

    I'm thinking about sending $10,000 as front money to Aria to have available for me when I get there. I don't have any great gaming history for them to go on since I only recently fell in love witrh Vegas, and it's difficult to get a marker if you're a foreigner, so front money seems like the way to go. I spoke to them and they let me know that if I send front money, it's for ganming purposes only. The 10k can only come down by the amount of my losses, although I get to keep wins. The only way of getting that money back is for them to wire it back to the bank account it came from. To be honest, I can probably get comfortabel with that and if I don't blow the entire 10 grand in my 3 nights at Aria, I'll be happy to leave whatever remains on deposit for my next visit, because I'm pretty sure that, like Arnie, I'll be back.

    A lot of what I've seen in looking through the forum to date is that many people (US residents, mostly) have markers, so don't need to post the front money. I just wondered if anyone had past experience of posting front money to the cage and if there were any tips, or views on the process they could share.
     
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  2. Scottndindy

    Scottndindy Low-Roller

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    I do front money on most trips. Very easy process. Just wire the funds and stop by the cage when you get there to ensure everything is active.
     
  3. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    goes just like they say.

    wire the money and it's available to draw markers when you arrive.
     
  4. bribhoy

    bribhoy Low-Roller

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    Great. Thanks for the prompt and reassuring responses. I'll send the money over there and use it at will.
     
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  5. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    If you don't have a credit line at Aria, then wiring and using front money should be pretty straightforward.

    But I found at multiple places (Aria, MGM Grand, Caesars) when you have both a credit line and front money, things can get a little confusing, because they are separate buckets. I assumed that if I had front money and I took a marker at a table, that they would draw from my front money first, and that's not what happened - they drew on the credit line. Which resulted in a little confusion at the cage when I went to verify how much front money I had left to work with.
     
  6. Hobofrank

    Hobofrank Prime Minister of Idiocracy

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    yeah, but he said as a Brit, they don't like giving him a LOC, so won't be an issue
     
  7. Mednec

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    I am a Brit and regularly wire front money to various Vegas casinos - I just ask the host for the bank details. Never had any problems, but allow five working days for the funds to show at the cage.
     
  8. thefish2010

    thefish2010 Low-Roller

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    I'm not sure if they will accept a cashier's check from a foreign bank, (you'll have to call and ask) but for FM, cashier's checks are the way to go because of all the restrictions around wires. I learned this the hard way. I like to play at multiple casinos when I come to town, and when I wired money it was basically stuck at the casino I wired it to - which I hated (there is some leeway if the casino you want to move money to is part of the same company, but it can still be a pain). But that isn't the case with a cashier's check. Basically, you buy the check and fax the cage a copy of it so they can verify it prior to your arrival. You can have the check made out to yourself, or to the casino. Call and make sure that they've approved it before you leave for Vegas. Then when you arrive, they will have a note in the computer saying that the check has been verified. You simply go to the cage, sign the back, and they deposit it as front money.

    It's much better than wires because once you've taken out a single marker for any amount against your FM balance, they can't simply hand you back the check because your FM balance is lower than the amount of the check. So you can go to the cage and say I want $X from my FM deposit, and they have to give it to you. If you put up $10K, gamble $1K of it, and want the $9K back because you're so disgusted with how fast you lost, they don't have any options other than to give it to you in any form you choose. If you do this over several trips and you don't gamble a significant amount of it, they might say something to you about it, but in your case this would be perfectly acceptable.
     
  9. Nittany1

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    I stopped wiring FM since my LOC was increased.
    Several years ago at MGM they would always draw on FM before tapping LOC.
     
  10. shifter

    shifter Degenerate Gambler

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    Yes they always do that.

    I've never heard of them taking CL first.

    But when you ask your avail they always give you the total combined.
     
  11. Char1

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    Is there a min or max wire amount ?
     
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    Not sure about folks from UK, but I am from Taiwan and had no issue getting a $20K CL approved via my MGM host. I can't imaging them having any issues with other developed countries.
     
  13. bribhoy

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    That's interesting. I did start a marker application with Aria last year, but it never really went anywhere. They said that, as a Brit, they couldn't support it for me (by return email, so before any checks or research had been done on my available balances). Since you have a host, you probably have more of a Vegas history than I do and that may have worked in your favour.

    I've gone ahead and wired the front money now anyway, but I'll have a chat with the Mlife desk at the end of my next visit and see whether I leave the front money on deposit for subsequent visits (if there's any left) or bring it home and look at a marker next time. Now that the cash is at the cage, I'm kind of counting it as dead money in my head anyway so if I win anything, that will just be a bonus!
     
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  14. Scottndindy

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    The mlife desk will be pretty worthless when talking Credit lines, front money. Etc. You will want to talk to a host or the cage.
     
  15. bribhoy

    bribhoy Low-Roller

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    OK. I will probably talk to the cage. Because of work / life pressures, I'm unlikely to be any more than a twice a year visitor for the next 5 years so will probably talk to the cage as I don't think I wil generate enough juice for a host.
     
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    screw the mlife desk, go into the host on duty office just 20 yards to the left of the cage
    I have an email for one of the day guys if you want
     
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    I wouldn't hold out any hope on the host duty office, called in there on my last visit and they said being a Brti made it "impossible" to be certain of credit availability / checks
    I had been on Tilt and blown my BR early :faint: had to resort to plastic for my last couple of days DOH! on an upbeat brought most of what I took out of the cash point home with me :Þ
     
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    well, yeah, they're not going to open a CL on the spot for int'l players without significant Central Credit history.

    it will take them time to establish.

    but most of their biggest players are int'l and they have multi-million dollar CLs,

    so it's more than possible.
     
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    I've wired money back and forth to the cage from the UK several times with no problems.If you are wiring back, just go to the cage on your last morning so that they can do ID checks, otherwise you might have to send a fax or passport scan when you get back home.
    The important thing is do not take more than $10k through customs, that includes any sterling you might have as well. Do not tick the over $10k on the customs form whatever you do.
     
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    I doubt it but call the cage.
     
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