I've read all of the recent theo/ADT threads and I think I've got it but I have one overarching question and that is for purposes of calculating theo, does the typical casino just use the house advantage percentage or does it use a slightly different percentage to reflect play by the average player? In other words, when calculating theo would Wynncore or CET use a HA of .5% on a regular Jacks or Better game or would it use say 1% or more, figuring that the real HA is bigger than .5% (because most players don't play perfectly), rather than roughly .5%, which is based on perfect play? I'm asking because if someone has tens of thousands of dollars of coin in in a given day and certainly over a given trip, that extra one or two percent could make a big difference in the theo and ultimately the comps, so just trying to figure out what my expected comps might be based on getting 30% of theo. I also wanted to confirm the basic math in terms of how comps are determined. For example, 5,000 CET Tier Credits earned per day on Video Poker means $50,000 Coin In. Assuming I'm playing basic full pay Jacks or Better (which I know doesn't exist in Vegas), that's roughly $50,000 Coin in x .005 (.5% HA) = $250 x 30% (average casino comp percentage based on theo) = $75 in comps/day. That seems really low, hence my question about whether the casinos use a HA number that more accurately reflects play by the average player verses play by a perfect player. Also wanted to confirm that if 50% of a 5,000 Tier Credit day comes from VP and half comes from slots with say a 10% hold, the calculation for comps (assuming 30% of theo) would be: $25,000 coin in x .005 (HA for full pay JoB) = $125 + $25,000 coin in x .1 (HA for slots -- 10% hold) = $2500, so $125 + $2500 = $2625 x 30% = $787.50 in comps/day. For my upcoming trip I'll still be playing mostly VP, with a bit of slots and maybe some blackjack but my mother, who will be playing on my card, will be playing slots entirely. TIA for the comments and any corrections. Edited. Actually, looking at this again if I had earned 2500 Tier Credits a day on slots the coin in on slots would have been $12,500 not $25,000 because you need just $5 coin in for slots for ever 1 Tier Credit but you need $10 coin in for VP per Tier Credit. So if I earned 2500 tier credits in a day on slots with a 10% hold/HA, that would be $12,500 coin in x .1 x .3 (comp as a percentage of theo) = $375 comps/day from slots + $125 comps/day from VP = $500 in comps per day.