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Table Games American Casino Guide Match Plays

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by QIKFIX, Aug 4, 2015.

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  1. QIKFIX

    QIKFIX Low-Roller

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    Hi All,

    Would the pit boss have a problem with people betting both red and black using a match play.

    Ie. I bet my match play on red and my mate uses his on black?

    As long as the ball doesn't hit 0 / 00, guaranteed a $25 profit on a $25 matchplay?

    What your thoughts / experience with these?

    Q
     
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  2. adbynot

    adbynot High-Roller

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    You are two separate people so should be no problem.
     
  3. PoTownMike

    PoTownMike Tourist

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    I tried to use almost the same strategy on a craps table at Foxwoods once. Two $ 25.00 matchplays one on Pass for me and one on Don't Pass for the wife. I figure the only thing that can go wrong is a 12 on the come out roll.

    Pit boss called no bet and told me to read the fine print on the coupon. It couldn't be used on Don't Pass.

    I wound up winning one out of two on the passline.

    Mike
     
  4. mescalita

    mescalita Low-Roller

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    My own view on this idea, and this is only my opinion, is that if too many folks use match plays like this to "game" the system we'll see more of them disappearing in the future. And in reality, the EV of two $25 match plays is very close to $25 anyway, so I'll take the excitement and adrenaline of gambling for a bigger win over the "guaranteed profit" anytime....

    :peace:
     
  5. DonnyC

    DonnyC VIP Whale

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    It all depends on what your daily bank roll is. I rarely if ever make a $25 bet.
     
  6. BayouBengal

    BayouBengal VIP Whale

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    They should have no problem at all with this. You're still not circumventing the 5.26% edge by betting both sides. So it's far from "guaranteed" but yes you'd profit $25 if it hit anything but 0/00. You could hedge if it's a lower min table by splitting the 0/00 with $5. It cuts your red/black wins by $5 but if it hit it'd be $85 for a $35 profit since you lose the red/black. So in my case it'd be $20 profit for red and black or $35 with 0/00.
     
  7. mwig

    mwig High-Roller

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    I agree that the pit should not have a problem with this strategy. I was treated like a criminal at the old Castaways for using this strategy and have been given dirty looks at a number of places. I would never do this at a place that matters to me.

    More on Castaways, we were told (very rudely) that we could not play opposing bets with match plays. We each had 4 $25 MP which came from their marketing department. I said OK and went to a BJ table to use them. The roulette pit boss followed us down and said no action for us. At this point I started getting upset. He pointed out the fine print that said management reserves all rights and called security. This escalated very quickly. I was angry but nothing close to warranting this activity. When security arrived he told them to escort us off property while using foul language and roughly jabbing me with his finger. I dialed an attorney acquaintance who lives in Vegas and demanded to see the general manager and a representative from the gaming commission. My friend asked to speak to the GM when he arrived. After getting eye witness accounts from other customers, the GM had the dealer pay us outright $200 in exchange for the MP and gave us a $100 meal comp for the following night. The pit boss was walking away in disgust and I told the GM I would like to file assault and battery charges if he would kindly call the police. The GM talked me off the ledge and sent the pit critter home. I found out the next day that the pit boss was fired and Castaways was out of business within a year.

    By the way, the comped meal sucked. This is an extreme example but there are pit bosses everywhere that just don't like match plays. I don't understand it. Marketing prints them so just go with the flow. Easier on everybody.
     
  8. boxofbirds

    boxofbirds High-Roller

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    Yeah, always check the fine print! Here is another play you can make with two people and some match play coupons. Haven't had a chance to try it yet.

    http://casinogambling.about.com/cs/comps/a/matchplay_2.htm

    That's a crazy story about Castaways. I always wonder why the pit bosses get so crazy over some little coupons!? Never had this much of an issue though, just some extra scrutiny now and then.
     
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    I have to agree 100%. People piss and moan every year when the ACG and MRB books come out and wonder what happened to the match plays. Don't get me wrong, you are entitled to use them any way you want. I use them on the roulette wheel with my wife. She will play black or red and I will play even or odd. Many times we both hit for a far better profit than trying to bet against each other. The casinos don't have to give us jack. If they give me match plays and 2 for 1 buffets I will patronize them.
     
  10. undathesea

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    The only reason to discourage their use is if it affects their bottom line, I would assume.

    I would think, accounting wise, at least half the value of every match play coupon is charged to the marketing department rather than gambling revenues... but what do I know?

    More likely just a pain in the butt to keep track of all of those coupons that come in.
     
  11. StingerHook

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    What if I walk up to a roulette table and bet $25 on red and $25 on black (with my match play coupon, too)? Are they going to run me off? (FWIW I don't have experience playing at a roulette table...)
     
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