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Table Games Adjusting Passline Bet for Craps

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by kubbball21, Jun 13, 2014.

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  1. kubbball21

    kubbball21 Tourist

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    Does anyone know if I can adjust my passline bet in craps once a point is established?

    For an example, at a $10 minimum table, I have $20 on the passline and the come out roll is a 6. Now that the point is 6, can I take $10 off my passline bet and use it as a passline odds bet? If I were to do this, I'd then have a $10 passline bet and a $10 passline odds bet.
     
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    No. If you could, we'd all be rich.

    The main advantage (you know what I mean) of a pass line bet is the instant win on a 7/yo during the come out roll. You can only lose on a 2/3/12. That means there are 8 ways to win and 4 ways to lose. The casino would not give you a 2 to 1 advantage on the come out, only to have you remove that money once you're no longer the favorite.
     
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    No, you can't.

    How about you see that the point is a 4 and decide to take your whole bet off?

    You can add odds and take odds off at any time, but the pass line bet itself, once there's a roll, you're committed until it wins or loses.
     
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    You can NOT do this if you are playing the pass

    You CAN do this if you are playing the dont though.


    The pass is a contract bet between you and the casino...your best odds (and the houses worst odds) for the pass line bet are on the come out roll...since you have the most number of ways to win (roll a 7). so they will not let you take the high odds rolls and then remove you bet.

    The dont on the other hand, your worst odds are on the come out roll...so if you survice the come out with your dont pass bet, the casino will gladly allow you to pull your bet since your odds have just increased.
     
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    This question arose after a friend got back from Vegas last week.

    While playing at the Cal, which has 2x’s odds, he would do $5 pass lines, and if the number was 6 or 8, he wanted to back up with $15.

    To do this, the dealers had him put more money on the passline bet, so the 2xs odds would now be $15(ish).

    Do all casinos do that?

    So this tells me I can adjust my passline bet higher after the point is established, but as many of you replied, you can’t reduce it.

    Makes sense, just trying to clarify.
     
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    You got it. You can put more after the come-out but you can't mess with the original contract bet. 2X odds suck but if you want more odds to back up the passline the casino would gladly let you up the passline bet to accommodate the higher odds bet.
     
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    Of course they will let you add more to the passline after the come out...the bet has worse odds after the come out
     
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    Generally, you would never add on to your pass line bet after the point is established....you only get paid even money on the pass line bet if the point is hit....if you are already at the max odds bet allowed and you want to bet more, then make a place bet on the point along with the pass line/odds bet .....
     
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    I knew the passliine bet was a "contract" bet and couldn't be removed, but was not aware it could be increased once the point is made.

    Lets say I have a $5 Passline bet and the shooter is hitting 6s all night.
    On the come out roll he rolls a 6 for the Point.
    Are you saying I can jump my $5 Passline bet to $25 so that my Odds bet can be $125 instead of $25????
     
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    You could do that, but it would not make any difference in you payout. Remember the pass line pays only even money while the place bet pays 7/6.

    If you start with $150 and had a $25 pass bet with $125 odds, you would win a total of $175 ($25 on your pass line and $150 on your odds bet.)
    If you start with the same $150 had a $5 pass line bet, with $25 odds and also a $120 place bet on the 6, you would also won $175 ( $5 on the pass line, $30 on the odds bet and $140 on the place bet)

    But remember, the odds are in your favor that you might have a seven or eleven on the comeout roll. But when you wait until after the comeout roll to bet the additional $20, you lose out on that advantage.
     
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    but if shooter is hitting sixes......

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    Then he has a 5/6 chance to hit another 6, before he hits a 7.
     
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    With a 6 or 8 and 5X odds it does not matter if you place the number or increase your pass line bet with max odds. It will always come out the same. For every $30 bet (5 pass plus 25 odds or 30 placed) you will receive 35. If you can play more than 5X odds you will do better increasing pass line with odds and if you are restricted to less than 5X odds you are better off placing it at 7/6.

    For 5 or 9 it is basically the same issue but 4X odds are your break even point. If you can play over 4X odds you are better off increasing the pass line and odds. Less than 4X odds and you should place the 5 or 9.

    For a 4 or 10 you should buy the numbers unless you can get 10X odds or better.
     
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    Lay 4 and 10
     
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    The reason that they did it at the Cal was because of the 2x odds. If you bet on the 6 or 8 with a $5, you supposedly can only bet $10 (2x odds) odds but the dealers will sometimes tell you to put down $6 so that you can put down $15 odds. Since the 6 and 8 have different odds the Cal allows you to increase your pass line bet so you can put down $15 odds. Not sure if they do it at the Fremont (2x odds also) or other casinos who only offer 2x odds.

    As for increasing your pass line bets to increase your odds, I am not sure on this one, some casinos and dealers may not allow it, instead changing your additional bet to a place bet. I tried to set a pass line and odds bet after the come out roll, some casinos allowed it, while others made it into a place bet.
     
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