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A Dozen Casino-Oriented Gentlemen at Cosmo in Aug for a Bachelor Party

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by CVG2LAS, Sep 1, 2013.

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  1. CVG2LAS

    CVG2LAS Tourist

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    My Trip Report




    Trip Overview

    • This trip was the Classic Bachelor Party. A group of a dozen or so 35 – 50 year olds, from all different parts of the country, gathered at the Cosmopolitan for a weekend of fun (mid-life crisis therapy?). As my wife informed me, “this isn’t his bachelor party, its yours, again.” Perhaps she was right. I definitely appreciate her guilt-free permission.

    • The group make-up was part current work life, part current social life, part social life from 10 years ago, and some local Vegas friends mixed in. It was also quite the cross section of lifestyles: From Doctors to Club Owners to Career Beginners, Partiers to Non-drinkers, Vegas Veterans to a few First Timers, Married with Kids to Single……yet chemistry was instant and strong. For 2 days, everyone from everywhere can become best friends in that town, even if they have only just met.

    • Of the group, ½ were gamblers, the other ½ not so much. Its fun to have your non-playing friends watching you, gasping when you are winning hundreds or thousands (“you should stop playing right now!” or “can I give you money to play for me?”). Its equally annoying having them watching you when you are in reverse (“you should stop playing right now!” or “no I won’t loan you money!”).

    • Its also definitely rewarding to ride into town with some first timers, and have them part of your Limo / host / suite with a view/ black chip gambling experience. First timers should really start their Vegas University Curriculum the way we did - by waiting in a 500 person airport cab line, followed by a 60 minute check in process at the Excalibur, and paying for everything everywhere.

    • Several of us planned the travel almost just right. Friday arrival at 10 am, Sunday departure at noon. 2 hard, non-stop days, or 48 hours In-Country. A full day set aside for recovery felt smart. Of course, I am learning that I really need 3 days recovery for 2 days in Vegas (when with the guys). Maybe 4.

    • BTW, when I arrive at McCarren, I scan the faces of those waiting to depart. It always amazes me how many of them look normal, no signs of exhaustion. How do these people have normal, restful trips? I don’t get them.


    Trip Non Gaming Fun

    • We went to nightclubs both nights, and they combined for 10 hours of cocktail inspired laughs. Bottle service, vip tables, etc. at Hyde on Fri and The Act on Saturday, chosen by our local experts.

    • The Act is particularly different, interesting, and entertaining.

    • Personally, not much dancing took place for me, as I don’t really dance, and no one handed me the necessary light stick. But lounging at the table, conversing, cocktailing, and people watching are fun enough for me.

    • We also went to the marquee pool party on Saturday, with a 2k minimum space pre-booked. Unfortunately, what was supposed to be the most fun part of the trip ended up as a bust for the majority of us. Most were all too exhausted to really partake beyond lunch and a dozen pitchers of mojitos. Many of us were forced to leave early and nap (or really, go to bed from Friday), so as to salvage a big Sat night. A few warriors stayed on, and managed to hit that minimum. I am proud of them. I made a go at it, even tried to sleep in the cabana, but the DJ music just wasn’t cooperating.
     
  2. CVG2LAS

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    Gambling

    • In total, this trip was really a big 2 day gambling binge (beautiful). Really taking me all the way back to they type of trip I started with 20 years ago, when I first visited Las Vegas, which I wrote about here http://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94921

    • No strip walk adventures, no shows, no shopping, very limited dining, marginal sunlight, constant cocktails, and a complete blast anyway.

    • Personally, I ended up with 18 hours of table play, average bet in the mid 5 hundreds. I am guessing it was 15 hours of BJ, 3 hours of craps, and 7 minutes of Casino War (I am up $100 for my life on that game. It still makes me laugh)

    • The host had me at a loss of $15.00. My real loss was about $3k. But the fact that one of my sessions was “3 way shared” with 2 friends, and it was a great winning session, my total number was skewed.

    • Considering their tracking doesn’t include a few hours of VP or WOF, or just hanging out in the casino, my hours were quite significant from a ratio standpoint. Approximately 22 of 48 hours was consumed by gambling activities. That is an Orgy of Gambling. Its also immature, unbalanced, and a bit insane. I certainly wouldn’t want to do that again, at least for another month.

    • BTW, there is nothing more fun that a little hit and run (or miss and run) $25 WOF after a winning session. My tradition is to play a little $5 WOF after a winning session, and sometimes I try to parlay a win on that to a $25 machine. My next trip I want to try 1k on a $100 WOF machine. I guess I am addicted to the bonus spin dopamine release.

    • 3 times on this trip, I was deep into my credit line ($20k), down over 5 figures, losing at both BJ and Craps. However, I never stopped a session down significantly. For one brief period, I was actually up 7k. But each time I was down, I was able to make comebacks, including one miracle described below. Importantly, as these comebacks meant that when I joined in for the other activities, clubs, dinners etc, I was always in the Vegas Good Mood, vs the Vegas Bad Mood, the situation where you have to pretend that you are not bothered by being down, and that you are enjoying this new activity when all you really want to do is go gamble.

    • Of the 3 comebacks, one of them will be etched in my mind forever. It was Saturday Morning (really still Friday Night), and I was down about $18k, for the 2nd time. There were 3 of us soldiers playing, post nightclub, at the Cosmo on a main floor $50 BJ table. My credit line was fully tapped, though ½ of it by “loans to others”, others who were smartly in bed. I also owed $2k to each of my 2 currently playing friends (yep, lots of loaning back and forth), and I had even tapped my ATM for my daily max of $1k. Unfortunately, all of us were down to the felt, and I was accountable for most of it. That lack of funds was a depressing feeling, and really the worst of all in Vegas. Particularly when its 6 am, you’ve been up all night, and you just look (and probably smell) like Shame. Of course, making sure that you have some sort of barrier that will get you to “lack of funds” is pretty important for true stubborn degens like myself. But hitting that point means you need to start re-grouping and facing your loss. You know, the losses aren’t real until you stop and realize them (sort of like selling a stock).

    • However, the 3 of us were not prepared to do that (I am surely a bad influence). So we stumbled upstairs to “collect” new funds from our sleeping friends. We started with the 2 that owed me (really my line) $10k. They were out of communication. So then we woke up 2 non-gamblers (who happened to be in my suite, or no chance to hide), and emptied their wallets (with reluctant permission) to the tune of $800. The 3 of us desperadoes took that $800 back to the same table. We played 3 way on one spot, and amazingly ran it up to over $6k. Then we divided the funds (squirreling away (with false commitment to never touch again) the $800 friend-loan. And we entrusted that fund to the most responsible of the 3 of us, or certainly not me. Then we continued, and kept the streak going, now separately but at the same table. By the end, I had repaid both of them their $2k, and I had over $16k in chips. From destitute to back up for the trip. Same for the other two. Probably my favorite comeback ever, as it seemed impossible, and included so much camaraderie. I am sure the both the dealers and cocktail waitresses enjoyed the run too, as the tips and bets were frequent and always in green chip territory.

    • Of course, it was this action that also destroyed our ability to enjoy the weekend’s planned cornerstone, the pool party. Playing to 9:30 AM on Saturday involved some hard living and big swing exhaustion.

    • Beyond that comeback, the rest of the gambling was somewhat tame. Sat night did turn into a fun, 2nd in a row all-nighter. I attempted to dial my play back somewhat, really just trying to give me self a shot at a mild win or mild loss. Of course, that plan didn’t work well, and I did get myself deep, temporarily, to over a 10k loss. But once again, the swings turned in my favor, and I was able to play most of the night up or down 3 or 4 k. I would have felt terrible to escape a big loss 3 times yet still come back a big loser.

    The End

    • Our departure flight was a 12:15. At 10 AM and being down only 3k, I was really tempted to change my flight. But I did that last year, and my wife was not happy, at all. So at 10 am, I called it a trip, and went up for a classic Vegas 10 minute shower / 10 min pack combo. By 11 am, 4 of us were at McCarren, eating a Jody Maroni, and beginning our re-entry process. I wonder if our no-sleep group was scary to look at.

    • While everyone left in the morning on Sunday, one fellow stayed behind until Sunday night (Rookie). Apparently the tables were not kind to him that day. Is there any place more lonely than Vegas on a Sunday, when suddenly you are tired (but can’t sleep), hung over (but still drinking), losing (but still playing), and all by yourself (where’d the party go??)? I think not.

    • Final Note 1: One of my higher level gambling friends had a Vegas Vacation gambling experience, where just nothing went right all weekend. This is the worst situation in gaming, and something I have been very fortunate to avoid for years. But when you have a trip that includes losing session after losing session, it not only sucks, it sucks for those watching. Reflecting on his play makes me realize that it could happen to me next. So I am going to use this opportunity to try and reset a little, dial back my play. The truth is that I can be cavalier under 10k, but I don't want anything higher than that. So in the future, I am going to try and limit myself to that. Good luck, right? Anyone have experience on re-training yourself to cut your base bet in 1/2?

    • Final Note 2: I have been very lucky and fortunate at the COSMO. And we receive great incentives to stay there. However, its time to adventure out to other venues. Plus, I don’t want to play with my $20k line for a few months. Have trips to the Wynn and TI for work in the next couple months. Going to try and go old school.

    • Final Note 3: A little talked about plus of a Vegas weekend is the weight loss. Despite a constant stream of carbs via alcohol or Wicked Spoon, or Secret Pizza, I managed to lose 5lbs in 2 days. Forcing your body to stay alert for 48 hours burns an immense amount of calories. Now, of course some of this is dehydration, but a week later, a couple of those lbs have stayed off. Seriously.
     
  3. smartone

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    Ha! I hear ya! I'm a people watcher as well and make it a point to drive the south portion of The Strip early in the morning on my way to the airport. I marvel at the number of people in the crosswalks at 8 a.m. all fresh and smiling. They weren't doing what I was last night!

    With regards to McCarran, don't forget that in the case of Southwest, it's a major hub and a lot of folks are just connecting elsewhere AND Las Vegas is a metropolitan area of a couple million people who use the airport as well.

    Lastly, and I don't know how they do it, many people actually shut it down and go to bed early the night before they travel... bless them... I'm not built that way.
     
  4. luvstp

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    The scavenging money from sleeping friends is a classic! :nworthy: No wonder none of my friends want to go with me to Vegas later this week! LOL

    Thanks for a great trip report and congratulations on your comeback from the felt. Those are the stories that keep all of us coming back for more.

    Regarding your question about reducing level of play......at least for me, it's just not going to happen. I'm primarily a $ vp player and when I go down in denomination to fifty cents or quarters.....I'm guaranteed to hit something and it makes me crazy. So now, I just suck up my losses and admit that I'm a dollar player. It might work for you, but it hasn't for me.

    Best wishes on your next trip!
     
  5. RockyBalboa

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    This is a nicely written report.

    Descriptive and had the ups and downs that I am sure we've all experienced - so it made me harken back to past sessions.

    Helluva comeback though! It's impressive to take an $800 bet up to a cash out of $16k. :nworthy:

    As for dialing back...good luck, but it is tough! When I started my gambling/Vegas expeditions a couple years ago I was just learning and played scared. Now? I don't want to miss the next hot shooter or shoe...I was getting smoked one trip so decided to back off a bit. What happens? Hit a nice hot roller and she shot for close to an hour. However I kicked myself because when I cashed out "only" $1500 but had I been playing normal it would have been triple that.
     
  6. RockyBalboa

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    Ha! I just wrote pretty similar thoughts as you on the reduction of betting.

    Go on a hot blackjack shoe run betting quarters? I kick myself because it should be more!
     
  7. CVG2LAS

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    Thanks for the compliment! And yep, it was a big swing up, even more when considering the other 2 continued winning, and received another 2k back from me.
     
  8. firstkill

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    Awesome come back.
    Chasing the last day is always tough. I've never won it back after I've changed a flight. Now I have stopped trying haha

    The problem with lowering bets is the fun seems to be gone
    I've tried but I just end up frustrated


    Fk
     
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