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Table Games 6:5 Blackjack - Rules Variation or Mistake?

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  1. whitefox

    whitefox Tourist

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    Hey Guys,

    Recent lurker of VMB -- already love this community and looking forward to jumping in and participating!

    My wife and I were on a Carnival cruise a few months ago. You can imagine that the only blackjack offered was TERRIBLE. 6:5, H17, CSM, minimum was $10 and $15 depending on the table. Anyway, needed to get my blackjack fix despite the awful rules. (Cue berating)

    A few times when a player had a blackjack the dealer offered even money against her dealer A. Even though this happened a few times I just figured it was a dealer mistake and of course wasn't going to say anything.

    Later on when a beginner player was offered even money and was unsure to take it or not, the dealer said if the dealer had a blackjack then the player would lose his bet.

    I wish I would have asked for clarification if that really was the rule -- the player blackjack loses to the dealer blackjack.

    So two things:

    1. It doesn't make sense for them to offer even money on a 6:5 table right?
    2. Has anyone heard of a dealer natural beats player natural (instead of pushing) rule variation like that before or were they completely F'ed up on my cruise?
     
  2. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    The dealer made a mistake(s). "Even Money" doesn't exist at 6:5 games. BJ vs. BJ is a PUSH.

    "Even Money" exists at 3:2 BJ because when you take maximum insurance on a blackjack you will always come out 1 bet ahead.

    Dealer has BJ:
    Insurance wins 1 unit
    BJ pushes
    Net win: 1 unit

    Dealer doesn't have BJ:
    Insurance loses 0.5 units
    BJ wins 1.5 units
    Net win: 1 unit

    But if the game is 6:5 then it looks like this:

    Dealer has BJ:
    Insurance pays 1 unit
    BJ pushes
    Net win: 1 unit

    BUT

    Dealer doesn't have BJ:
    Insurance loses 0.5 units
    BJ wins only 1.2 units
    Net win: 0.7 units

    So if you are ever offered "even money" at 6:5 BJ always take it!
     
  3. whitefox

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    Thanks for this detail. I was taking even money because it seemed like I was getting some free insurance built it. Now I know the numbers.

    So you think the dealer was simply mistaken about dealer BJ beating player BJ or could that be a rule at that table?
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    I would think it's another mistake. It's definitely not a rule I've ever heard of.
     
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