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3/6 - 3/11 Caesars Palace

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by AllNetDad, Mar 12, 2014.

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  1. AllNetDad

    AllNetDad Tourist

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    My Trip Report

    Sorry, this TR got away from me:

    To continue our CET experiment we decided one more trip to Vegas was in order before getting seriously into real life again. We decided to go with Caesars Palace, Augustus Tower and hopefully get a good view of the Bellagio fountains. The plan was to arrive on Thursday and go home on Monday.

    As per usual, we drove from Silicon Valley to Las Vegas, which is always one of my favorite parts of the trip as I get to spend a lot of one-on-one time with AllNetMom. This drive was particularly nice due to the rains that had come through So-Cal and Nevada the week before, so all that was usually brown and tan was now green, with miles of little flowers in the Mojave Desert. We drove straight through this time, only stopping for Starbucks, gas and a bladder break. So we got there a little earlier than usual.

    Rolled into CP at around 2:00pm on Thursday and used the little VIP Valet on Flamingo Street. Quick and easy, next stop was the Diamond / Seven Star checkin, which was right there, and then up to see the room, elevators right there too. We were in the Augustus Tower Luxury room, which is very nice and well maintained. It is a little dated compared to the Octavius decor (at least from what I've seen in the pictures), but there was nothing broken or damaged. The room is larger than the Octavius, but all that space is just... space. The room actually felt kind of sparse. The TV was very small, but had very good picture quality. Unlike some other comments on the room, I found the TV was easy to see from either the bed or the couch. And then there was the view. The view was amazing. We could see everything from Paris to the Bellagio, including the fountains which started a show just as we looked out the window. At night it only got more spectacular.

    After the obligatory bourbon we went down to check the place.. er, palace... out. It is pretty big and sprawls on forever if one includes the Forum shops, but we are used to walking so it wasn't a problem. After getting the lay of the land and seeing where all the VP machines and restaurants were, we were starving. Unfortunately, Mesa shuts down mid-afternoon, so we went to Gordon Ramsay's Pub and Grill. Disappointing. The ambiance is good, and they make a good Black and Tan (who doesn't?) but the food was not right. I ordered the Fish and Chips. While the flavors were good, the textures were all wrong. The "chips" were just thin American french fries, but soggy and limp. The fish (cod) was lightly breaded (like a fish stick), over cooked and a little oily. It completely fell apart on my plate and was difficult to keep even a small bite on my fork. ANM had the Salmon, which was burnt on one side and under-cooked on the other. I really expected better. If you want some good Fish and Chips head over to Nine Fine Irishmen at NYNY. Much better, and more like what I've had in England. The Video Poker was OK, with some high moments, and we played until about 2:00am, but ultimately ended down. Ate a quick meal at Central by Michel Richard, which is right off the Main lobby. Was good, particularly since it was open in the middle of the night, and reasonably priced. Coin in for the day was ~51K.

    Friday we slept in, which is pretty odd for us as I am usually up around 7:00am and ready to play. We didn't get out of the room until around 11:00am. Stopped at Starbucks (conveniently at the base of the Augustus Tower) then decided to activate a $350 free play offer we had. This turned out to be a PITA as we hadn't booked the room with the offer, but the website didn't tell us that. TR couldn't help us so we went from TR to the Hosts Office, which is in a different part of the casino, got it worked out with them and had to go back to TR. I do like the way they handle the FP with multiple vouchers. We managed to cash out $340 on $350 of FP as our luck turned around for the day.

    We ate a late lunch at Spago, Wolfgang Puck's restaurant in the Forum shops. The food was excellent, as was the wine. I had the Hand Cut Fettuccine with mushrooms and a nice Napa Valley White. Was amazing. If you are accustomed to billing food to your room, be aware, restaurants in the Forum shops are not affiliated with CET. No room charge.

    We continued to play VP until around 9:00pm. Finished the gambling day up enough to offset the previous day and more. Coin in again ~51K.

    Went back to the room, had a message waiting from a host, ignored that for the time being, ordered room service and watched Shark Tank. The Mediterranean Sampler plate (Humus, tabouli, olives, cheese and pita bread) was delish as was my BLT and potato salad. Part way through Blue Bloods the TV stopped working. I figured it was a temporary glitch so we watched Mad Men on the iPad. When the TV still didn't come on we called the front desk, they said they would send someone up, but since it was almost midnight we decided to wait till the morning. At about 12:45am someone called to say they could come up to fix the TV. No, wait until the "real" morning.

    Saturday 7:00am, phone rings again. It is morning. So we got up and out of the room before they showed up to fix the TV and started playing straight away. Up and down, up and down. Well, it's better than losing. Around 11:00am we decided to do Brunch at Mesa. While waiting (like 10 minutes) for a table we noticed they had Pappy Van Winkle's at the bar. If you are not familiar, it is highly regarded as one of the finest, if not THE finest Bourbon. I know of it, but had never seen it as it is hard to get and very expensive. Why the hell not? So with our fabulous meal, and it was fabulous, we had the 23yr, the 20yr, the 15yr and the 12 yr. My last meal must now include Pappy's. While I also enjoyed every dish we ordered, my favorite was the Blue Corn Pancake with BBQ Duck. It is pretty intense, ANM didn't care for it, but I loved it.

    After brunch we played some more, and while switching machines noticed that our RC's had dissapeared. So we stopped in at TR to inquire. "Happens all the time, talk to the Hotel Desk." So we go to the Hotel desk, "We would never do that." Long story short, an overly zealous host had comped all of our room charges, which wipes out your RC's. I don't really have a problem with that, but who likes suprises? BTW, this was not the same host that had called on Friday. This is host #2, and she also left a message for us letting us know that she had comped us, but of course, we weren't in the room to get the message.

    We continue to play into the evening, losing, losing, now approaching 60K coin in when a sly host comes over and says "is everything OK, I though I saw the service light on your machine." Bullshit. The hosts at CP are aggressive! But this guy actually turns out to be pretty cool, and we talk for a while and he offers us some show tickets. I'm not a big show guy. He lists off a bunch of shows and I say, "I've heard good things about Absinthe." 60 seconds later we've got confirmation for 7:30 on Sunday. This guy's good.

    At this point it is getting kinda late, we've been losing for a bit but ANM wants to play TLOTR slot and it's been busy all day. I dislike slots, but I actually enjoyed this one, mostly because I hit several bonus plays ("Helm's Deep" and "Lighting the Beacon") as well as killed the Fell Beast and had about 45 bonus spins. Yeah, winning makes it feel like fun, and I'm a big Tolkien fan too.

    So, back to the room (TV works!) and Saturday ends with the bankroll right where it started on Thursday. ~ 61K coin in for the day.

    Sunday started out OK, but then I got greedy and gambling on sunday sucked. You know, sometimes $2 DDB Triple play works, and sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't, it sucks you dry. How was I to know I would not see a quad until Monday? That's just how the game plays sometimes. We also decided to give Ramsay's Pub a second chance. Shouldn't have.

    The highlights of the day were Absinthe and Dinner at Mesa afterward. We picked up our tickets about 30 minutes before the show and while waiting decided we would like to stay another day. Can't play if you don't win or something like that. Called the host who got us the tickets and he extended our stay to Tuesday morning.

    Absinthe was amazing. We were in the front row and I was chosen as "the guy" by the female acts. It was just terrible. I got breasts in my face and clothes thrown at me. I cried over the humiliation that my wife must have endured. But seriously, the show is raunchy, sexy, exciting, scary, racist, sexist, homophobic, verbally pornographic and probably the best show I have ever seen in my entire life.

    Dinner at Mesa was excellent again. I had the Pancake / BBQ Duck as an appetizer followed by the Cascabel Chile Crusted Rabbit. Rather than go for the Bourbon again we had some really tasty Margaritas.

    Played a little after dinner, but we were still losing so called it a night. Sunday ended with 67K coin in.

    Monday was pretty uneventful. Got approached by a fourth host. Never managed to get out of the losing streak, and only played ~42K coin in for the day, but that didn't seem to upset the host. Ate lunch at Beijing Noodle, which was bland and boring. We did run into Alton Brown in the hallway near the end of the day, and I'm an AB fan. Had a late room service again Monday night and watched Mad Men on the iPad.

    In the end, this was a losing trip (gambling wise), but overall a very enjoyable one. I haven't yet had any luck gambling with CET, but I've only been twice. We now have a host at CET, "AF", that we really like, and he comped everything for us. I would definitely go to Caesars again, but would probably opt for an Octavius room. While the view from the Augustus room was sweet, now I've been there and done that. There are some great restaurants and some not so great, but the Room Service is really good. We are now Aspirations Level 3, so will see what comes of that.
     

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  2. luckylarry

    luckylarry Tourist

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    Thank you for your report...very enjoyable.
     
  3. dankyone

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    while switching machines noticed that our RC's had dissapeared. So we stopped in at TR to inquire. "Happens all the time, talk to the Hotel Desk." So we go to the Hotel desk, "We would never do that." Long story short, an overly zealous host had comped all of our room charges, which wipes out your RC's.

    This is something VERY irritating that they do at CP, and then take great pride in having "comped you"...uhh, if I wanted to use my RCs, I could have done that myself, and what if I wanted to use them on something else?!?

    This is no accident, it is a way to get out of extending further comps beyond RCs, and a great reason to arrive at CP with zero RCs in your account if possible when expecting to have high play on your trip.
     
  4. allnetmom

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    Dankyone--it was disconcerting. One second we had $300 in rc's then went to the next machine and it was all gone. Mlife would never do that, and being new to CET it confused me.

    I agree with you----Why build RC's if they just keep taking them before we even check out?
     
  5. lithium78

    lithium78 High-Roller

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    Thanks for the trip report. We're planning a visit to CP in Sept., probably with a room in the Augustus Tower, so your report was really helpful.
     
  6. mike841

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    good trip report, nice VP pics too!
     
  7. bighead1970

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    Do you remember how much the Pappy cost?
     
  8. aliasyoshi

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    I was going to ask the same thing. :thumbsup:
     
  9. Funkhouser

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    If its not being too personal, I am curious what your bankroll was to achieve for that much coin in. Obviously risk of ruin (loss of entire bankroll) varies based on paytables. Also how many hands did you think you played.

    I am still guessing at the $2 level CET is giving you $10 a point. If I were guessing for $61K coin in would be in the neighborhood of 6000 hands and your bankroll was probably in the neighborhood of $15K, but I see you had a lot of premium 4OAK hits. I really like DDB and TDB but at the per hand level would hate all the taxable hits for 4OAK.

    Enjoyed your report!
     
  10. dankyone

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    The hosts at Caesars Palace absolutely do it routinely. It is CET policy to take all RCs before extending any discretionary comps. HOWEVER, they should NOT be simply taking RCs to cover charges on a current stay without asking. Unfortunately, they do. In order to maximize discretionary comps at CP, it is best to arrive with a zero RC balance if possible--otherwise they will just take RCs earned elsewhere before extending additional comps.

    Harrah's Rincon will comp food and spa charges without taking RCs if your play warrants. I think they do this since there is so little they can actually comp there--one steakhouse and a spa. Since no comped alcohol is allowed in CA, and the restaurant just isn't that expensive, it is simply impossible to run up large food and bev charges there.

    Similarly, of course, Mlife properties comp food and beverage--even up front--while letting your ECs accumulate.
     
  11. AllNetDad

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    From the receipt :
    23yr $80
    20yr $38
    15yr $35
    12yr $25

    That's a good educated guess. The bankroll was $15K, and if we had a bad run I would expect that to be gone in 2 days. DDB is very volatile, triple play more so. Most of our play is actually $1 9/5 DDB (Single Line) with some $2 thrown in. I will generally do about an hour of triple play @ $1 or $2 every day while ANM does UX @ $.25 . That alone can cost $2K, so I won't be doing that all day every day. Total number of hands is probably closer to 9K (9 hours x 500 hands x 2 Players).

    Part of our decision to stay the extra day was based on the fact that as of Saturday night, we were breaking even. The bankroll could then carry us for Sunday - Monday.
     
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    With the 3 AWAK, I'm a little surprised you weren't ahead. But then again, you didn't show a single UX hit either here. Does your wife not take as many pics? Didn't run as good? Both? I am in the habit of erring on the side of caution of taking too many now. :eek:

    CET also has 9/5 DDB w/UX at the Quad at least for nickels, dimes, quarters (unsure of other locations), which is surprisingly good. And "full pay" 7/5 Bonus UX at Harrah's/Flamingo, but that's 3-handed dollars minimum. :eek: 6/5 Bonus w/UX exists for as cheap as nickels at Harrah's though.

    Thanks for sharing!!
     
  13. AllNetDad

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    Percentage wise, the loss wasn't too bad, though it was greater than the house advantage. ANM didn't have any hand pays that I recall on UX, and I had some really bad luck on Sunday, no quads playing $2 DDB Triple Play and I started chasing it. Just a few big hits on Sunday and we could have come out ahead.

    I did have some more pics, but they weren't hand pays.
     
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