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Table Games 3:2 Payout on a 21 after split

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by johnvic, Dec 4, 2013.

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  1. johnvic

    johnvic VIP Whale

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    I had a conversation at work about Blackjack. One guy said he splits 10's because then he has 2 chances for a blackjack. After my head stopped spinning I just said that you would get 21, not a bj, i.e. not a 3:2 payout. I didn't want to get into the actual act of splitting tens unless you're counting and even then it's not wise because of heat. I wanted to say, only an idiot or a card counter splits tens, but then that would be calling him an idiot.

    The other guy in the conversation said some casinos pay 3:2 on a split 21. While I'm sure there has been promos of paying 3:2 on splits 21s, I'm pretty sure those casinos realized their mistake and stopped that promo. But maybe I'm wrong. Are there casinos in the US or Canada near Michigan ( where the guy went to college ) that regularly pay 3:2 on a split 21?
     
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    I am not aware of any. I have played at tables where this happens and only seen the dealers pay even money
     
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    Well, offering 3:2 for a "split BJ" is fine for the house if it's with tens, because it's still -EV to split anyway (except if you count like you mentioned). If 3:2 "split BJ" is offered after splitting aces, then it gains the player about 0.19%.

    http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/
     
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    Always good stuff from tringlomane.
     
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    I've seen it once or twice from newby dealers, not on split tens by the way, but split aces, it's a good gig if you can get it.:thumbsup:
     
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    Never seen 3:2 on split aces in ac or vegas ever. Never tried or will ever split 10's.
     
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    And I've never seen it at the Michigan casinos either.
     
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    Thanks all. My guess is the guy is just plain wrong.
     
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    It's possible that he was playing some carnival-variation of blackjack, like 'Superfun 21' or Spanish 21.
    It seems like some of those carnival versions pay 3:2 on all blackjacks, even after splitting, (IIRC).
     
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    In the MGM Grand Detroit's party pit, during special times if you split aces and get a 10 it pays 3-2. It doesn't pay 3-2 if you split faces and get an ace though.
     
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    Not true! There is one situation where you should split tens.

    That's when the table is full and you want to open up a seat for your buddy.
     
  12. Crapmaster

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    Would never split 10's. And I wouldn't know about splitting aces, because I always get about a 3 on one and a 4 on the other.
     
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    I agree with Big Tip....Splitting tens is a sure way to clear a couple seets if necessary.



    that is all !
     
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    Only in certain situations in a BJ Tourney, would I split tens.
     
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    atleast you got me to laugh :drunk:
     
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