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Video Poker $.25 Video Poker at Planet Hollywood

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by waverunner, Jun 22, 2014.

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  1. waverunner

    waverunner BBHMM

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    I will be staying at PHO in August. I usually play slots......pennies, quarters, and sometimes dollars. I was thinking of mixing it up a bit and playing penny slots (usually 100-150 coins at a time), but instead of playing slots other than pennies, i was thinking about playing $.25 Video Poker. I play at home so i do have some knowledge.

    Now, many of you are probably thinking "if he has knowledge he wouldn't be playing at CET"....LOL. I get that. But looking at the pay tables at WoO for CET and MGM, it's mostly about the same for quarters, about 98.4-98.1. The hotels listed mention NY/NY and Planet Hollywood as the best (meaning variance of the quarter games). JOB, DDB, DDBAF, etc.

    I get free rooms at Planet Hollywood in August and November, so i won't be gambling at MGM properties.

    My questions are:

    I like to play casually, i'm not going to play VP as if my life depends on it. But if my machine is paying only 98.1 % compared to 98.7 % or 99.9 % or even 100 % like off Strip or Downtown hotels, will it really make a difference to the casual player? I'll probably bet $1.25 (5 quarters) a hand.
    Aren't these percentages based on hard core players playing hundreds of dollars an hour or a couple of hours?

    My goal gambling, and it has been for many years, is to gamble my set amount each day for the longest time. My hope is i can stretch my daily bankroll at a higher rate for quarters at VP as opposed to quarters at Slots.

    Also, if i download an App for VP on my Cell, will i be escorted out of that property like Ben? I was thinking of an App for VP to help me with some scenarios with certain hands. Thanks.
     
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  2. cf84

    cf84 Tourist

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    If you play slow, say 400 hands an hour, that's $500 an hour in coin-in. If you're giving up 2% on the pay table, it's costing you $10 an hour IN THE LONG RUN. Of course, you could hit a royal or two on the lower payout and come out way ahead. And you could have played a 100% machine and hit a terrible run and lose a bunch. But if you play hundreds or thousands of hours over the years, that 2% will catch up with you.
     
  3. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    If you restrict yourself to CET properties, PHo is definitely one of your better choices as a lower limit VP player. To my knowledge they still have the 7/5 Bonus machines w/Super Times Pay (98.01% w/o STP; 98.29% w/STP) for as cheap as nickels! So in this case, you can play 5 lines of this at nickels instead, and experience even lower variance than 1 line of quarters.

    Did I miss a thread? Link? Um, possibly if you get caught by a true prick, but in reality, not usually. Using smartphone analyzers are "technically illegal" in most states, but I have never heard anyone busted for it. I will use them on "tough calls", but I tend to avoid them while actively playing because they are "technically illegal" in Nevada and elsewhere. I have been known to crunch out and review the strategy on the crapper though, particularly on progressives...:evillaugh
     
  4. waverunner

    waverunner BBHMM

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    @ tringlomane.................I was speaking about Ben Afflack........LOL.

    I singled out PH because according to Wizard of Odds they seem to have multiple VP choices at CET (quarters>dollars>five dollars). Many CET hotels only have a buck and up. I'd rather use max quarters (or even nickels) per hand than 1 or 2 dollars per hand. I didn't see nickels listed but if they have some i'll play max nickels, if not i'll do quarters. Thanks.

    @ cf84............i usually gamble my daily bankroll for about 6 hours in the evening. That's about $400 x 5 nights. A portion of that amount will be on some of my favorite penny slots like Blazing 7's. But playing quarter slots always seems a let down to me, that's why VP has peaked my interest. I used to play video Keno sometimes but it get's boring and nothing much happens.
    At least with VP i can play the machine (if i use basic strategy) instead of the machine playing me. Thank you.
     
  5. waverunner

    waverunner BBHMM

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    According to the TR website, Planet Hollywood has these nickel VP machines:

    All Star Poker
    Big Split Poker
    Build a Wheel
    Game King
    Super Times Pay Poker
    Triple Play Poker

    So instead of playing 5 quarters per hand i could play at least 25 nickels per hand. Maybe 800 hands per hour instead of 400.
     
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    waverunner BBHMM

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    According to the TR website, Planet Hollywood has these nickel VP machines:

    All Star Poker
    Big Split Poker
    Build a Wheel
    Game King
    Super Times Pay Poker
    Triple Play Poker

    So instead of playing 5 quarters per hand i could play at least 25 nickels per hand. Maybe 800 hands per hour instead of 400.

    Sorry about the duplicate.
     
  7. Smo

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    These percentages are based on 134,459 hands of video poker. That's a lot of hands on the same machine.
    Sure, you should always find the best pay tables and play those, but for the casual player who just wants to stretch their BR, only play JoB or BP(if you want to get a better payout for premium quads with less variance).
     
  8. smerrian

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    www.vpfree2 is the site that shows all of the games at all of the major casinos around the country. It is easily filtered by casino, vp game and denomination. Want to know all of the casinos on the Strip with $.25 vp games, you can get a list including which games are offered and what their payout is. As for an easy game to play, according to www.vpfree2, PH has $.25 Bonus Poker (98.01) on select machines in the Extra Lounge Bar. They also have 3-play BP machines for only $.05, $.10 or $.25 (wow! nickels…$.75 a pull!) Super Times Pay to the right of Planet Dailies.
    If you want a good time with vp for a long time I would hit these Super Times Pay machines at the $.05 level right where you're staying in PH. Free drinks and you can crash right upstairs.
     
  9. Funkhouser

    Funkhouser In Charge of the Big Door

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    It's been about a year since I have played the bartops at PHo, but actually I found better paytables at Heart Bar, on the back side bartender wells, on the Mall side. Meaning if your sitting at Heart Bar you are facing towards the front entrance of casino, with your back to Miracle Mile shops. I found some 8/5 BP and 8/6 BPDLX.


    Extra bar had some triple play machines mixed in at those paytables and .25 denominations. I have had some luck at both bars, taking down two royals, and 2 aces with kicker in the pas 18 months on those bartops, with around $700 coin in over these trips. In contrast the VP machines surrounding the escalators and in the HL room have been a virtual drought for me.
     
  10. mrstealth

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    PHO has a good selection of Video poker variants and multiple denominations. I like to play multiple hands and found .5 cent, .10 cent, .25, and up varieties of most games. On the second level there is also a .25 cent progressive bank with about 30 or so machines, which offer multiple games. The royal flush pays a progressive and at times can get quite high.

    Remember, that when these sites quote a 98.1 percent return that is theoretical over hundreds of thousands or even millions of hands and assumes perfect play. None of us play perfect on these machines (especially with all of the different variations) and none of us have a large enough bankroll or time to play to achieve the theoretical win. Also, remember that all pay charts are based on Max Coin in where the royal pays a premium.

    Based on my 10+ years of experience playing video poker (and depending on how fast you play, and the game you chose), for quarter video poker I would budget $300 - $500 per day (3-5+ hours of gambling) if you play slow, you could budget a little less. Adjust that amount based on the denomination you play (so nickels would be 1/5 of that amount, dollars 4 times that amount). If you win more than your fair of quads and/or are lucky enough to hit a royal, you will go home with money, if you don't you will go home with less money and possibly even your whole bankroll. Either way, You will have a good time, have hundreds of dollars in free drinks, and have hundreds of dollars in free rooms on future trips.

    Also, Always play max coin for the denomination you choose, if you don't you will not get paid the premium should you happen to hit a royal.
     
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    Funkhouser: I don't play at PH. I'm just passing on information from a very credible site, www.vpfree2.com. I hightly recommend going to that site for all of your vp scouting. They usually have very up to date information. Personally, I rent a car and play off-Strip at casinos that pay >100%. The money I save, along with meal savings, pays for the car rental. In actuality, over the long run (and I do plan on being alive for a long time) a 98.01% BP game will lose about 4x the money that a 99.54% JoB game will. There is an easy shuttle waverunner can hop on to the Rio. The Gold Coast next door has tons of $.25 9/6 (99.54%) JoB and The Palms accross the street has $.25 (100.76) FPDW. Both are easy games in which to gain proficiency with some practice at home. As for vp machines being 'lucky' or 'drought' ridden, that is all in your imagination. It is all simple math and probability. Each spin on the same type of machine has the same chance as it does on any equivalent machine.
     
  12. Bigcasino

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    Had a lot of luck at the Heart bar playing 10/6 triple bonus poker. It has a wild ride with some long dry spins but hits big. Also had good luck at the VP bar in the sports book. Played .25 cent max bet.
     
  13. wigwam_salesman

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    As a casual player at the same level as you I would say it won't make any noticeable difference. Losing ten bucks an hour is worth it for the p ho atmosphere and I always seem to do about the same there as downtown or at a locals place anyway (badly)
     
  14. tringlomane

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    The PHo data is mainly mine from my Feb trip, but I unfortunately didn't get time to check the heart bar either. CET bars are usually terribly consistent, sounds like I may have made a mistake with assuming the heart bar was the same. And any time I go to PHo the heart bar looks pretty busy.

    And they actually offer triple bonus at the bar too? You never see that game. Definitely isn't at other CET bars. But 10/6 is a meh 96.95%, but it's better than 8/5 DDB I guess.
     
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    Thanks. I have used the Bally's to Rio shuttle the last couple of years and will again this August/Nov. I use the shuttle to eat the buffet at Gold Coast and also when i stayed at Rio last year.
    However, my gambling budget is used only at CET. That's why all my trips to Vegas the last few years have been comped.
     
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    Don't you have to order alcohol to play at the bar? I hardly touch booze if ever.
     
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    Hit a royal at PH just last week on .25 BP. As far as Caesars properties go it still is my go-to place for VP.
     
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    Thanks for the reminder about the 2nd level. I haven't stayed at PH since 2009, so when i realized that PH would be comped this summer and fall, i grabbed it. PHO i have always loved since my gambling budget is used only at CET and mostly at PHO.
    I will play mostly quarters at max as well as nickels.
    This will be the first time in many, many, many years that VP will be my main object of my desire.
     
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    Congrats BCguy.
     
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    Where, exactly, can you do STP for nickels and still get the STP bonus?
     
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