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Table Games Roulette Strategy

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by wellmel, Apr 4, 2014.

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  1. wellmel

    wellmel Low-Roller

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    Has anyone heard of the roulette strategy? It works for me, but then again I only play electronic roulette so I can bet as little as $0.25 at a time.

    You only bet on the 50/50 slots, black vs. red or odd vs. even. And you must always bet the same spot.

    You start with one bet. If you lose, you double your last bet plus your original bet. If you win, you go back to your original bet.

    So if you bet 5 on red, if you lose you bet 15 on red. If you win, you bet 5 on red. If you lose your 15, you bet 35 on red. Etc.

    What do you think?

    The only thing that messes me up is if the opposite color/number happens for like 5-7 straight times. Then you reach the maximum bet and lose a ton, maybe all you put in.

    My co-worker taught me this. Has anyone else ever heard of it? Is there another thread about it I couldn't find?
     
  2. JustNgo

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    Martingale system. You have to have a huge bankroll to win a single unit and a single bad streak can wipe you out pretty easily.
     
  3. DeMoN2318

    DeMoN2318 The DERS

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    Martingale System...slightly modified.

    Pretty much the #1 reason for table limits...
     
  4. Vegas Insight

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    if you really wanted to drink free (and by free, i mean the cost of a tip for the drink service,) then i suppose Martingale should safely work. i had no idea you could bet as little as a quarter on any video roulette machine. (i haven't played one in years.)

    you'd need a $64 buy in to cover 8 spins using the Martingale system. and yes, a 50-50 (almost) proposition can lose 9 in a row, but if i was trying to drink for free to stave off further losses, i'd consider putting $64 at risk under the assumption i couldn't get that unlucky.

    where can you play video roulette for 25 cents a spin and would it cap you before you reached the $32 bet?
     
  5. wellmel

    wellmel Low-Roller

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    Oh wow, I never knew there was a name for it. Cool:thumbsup:
     
  6. MikeOPensacola

    MikeOPensacola El Jefe

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    I like to play about eight numbers that are adjacent to each other on the wheel straight up. If I get a couple of quick hitters I collect and walk away.

    :peace::beer:
     
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  7. wellmel

    wellmel Low-Roller

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    I actually don't remember where I played it. But I found it both in Reno and in Vegas. i'm going April 11, I'll reply to you with the answer when I come back, because I'm definitely going to go hunting for it again. It may have been Planet Hollywood or the nearby casinos.

    Actually, I know Cosmo had electronic roulette. And maybe the Quad. I just don't remember which ones went down to 25 cents, and which ones were 50 cents to a dollar minimums.

    It would cap you, but I don't remember what the limit was. Probably somewhere around 32-52$
     
  8. wellmel

    wellmel Low-Roller

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    interesting strategy! Maybe I'll have to try it!
     
  9. DeMoN2318

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    You can bet in quarter denominations, but the lowest minimum bet I have seen is $2 per spin...at excal

    If you want to make the money last longer, do a true martingale and just double you bet after each lose...dont add the extra bet or you will hit the table/game max quickly.


    I usually pick two numbers in the same row for 1 unit each and then play that row for 1 unit. So if any number in that row hits, I break even for that spin...if one of my numbers hits I get a nice payoff. I have yet to NOT make a profit when using this strategy in a hit and run method.



    Also, I have seen 10 blacks in a row before...yee be warned
     
  10. SoCalTrucker

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    There is a $0.25 electronic roulette at NYNY that I threw $10 into back in October. It was one that had a real wheel in the middle and 6-8 stations around it close to their craps tables.
     
  11. wellmel

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    I've been to at least one table in Vegas where I could bet as little as 25 cents on the first bet. But I'm pretty sure it was more than one.

    Your strategy sounds good to try too!
     
  12. melbedewy

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    Uh, this one's been around for a little while
     
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    My system is to bet on all the numbers. Can't lose. :wink2:
     
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    bet black and red and throw a chip on the green you will win:nworthy:

    miss cleo agrees:thumbsup:
     
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    Google the 6/12 roulette strategy I have had some success with that one.
     
  16. Vegas Insight

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    http://roulettesecrets.com/12-6-roulette-system.php

    Never seen this one before, and based upon my expert analysis I am convinced that this strategy is for suckers. But if it's your lucky day, then it's a brilliant strategy.

    Pick any six sets of numbers and bet that you can beat the approximately 1-in-3 odds three times in a row. If you can do it with a a $60 bankroll you'll win $40 after 10 cracks at it, assuming you play out all 10 initial bets.

    I won't dismiss the idea that a good croupier can drop a ball in the same general field with some regularity if s/he is trying, but I'm skeptical that croupiers try that hard and doubtful that even in an effort to hit the 0-00 fields covered by the strategy, any croupier will hit it with enough consistency to be exploited. And let's pretend that a croupier hits the 0-00 fields consistently, s/he will immediately notice a player is taking advantage of that consistency and can easily change her/his spin to change up the result.

    Why wouldn't a skilled croupier want to help advantage betters take advantage of her/his skill on the wheel? Because her/his friends will be betting her/his table every day in order to make fat stacks of greenbacks, for which the players will tip generously during or after the fact. And if that's happening, the eye in the sky will quickly notice, and suddenly the croupier is working the craps table exclusively.
     
  17. Auggie

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    I will dismiss it: they can't.

    The first thing is: why would they?
    The concept of that article is that the dealer is playing against the player, trying to win for the house... but why would they? The casinos don't pay dealers a bonus if they beat the players and if the players win then the dealer is more likely to get tips or better tips - so it would actually be in the dealer's best interest, if they could do that, to make sure the player wins not the house.

    Secondly, its: why would they do it for anybody but themselves?
    Why would they try to make the house win? Or make you win? Or make you lose? If a dealer could actually target sections of the wheel (doesn't have to be pinpoint accuracy, just a section would be good enough) they would just get their friends and family to come in and make bets for them and then divvy up the profits afterwards.

    And then finally, it seems like some of them can do it, but that's what the human mind does: it tries to explain things, to rationalize them, to find order in chaos and randomness...

    An example would be: you ask the dealer to make it land on #5... if the ball lands within 3 spots on the wheel of #5 thats probably going to look impressive, like he was "soooooooo close!" And if the ball lands on any of the numbers on the layout around #5, 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 or 9, then that is also going to look "soooooooo close!"

    But you add it up:
    #5 = 1
    3 spots on either side of #5 = 6
    8 spots surrounding #5 = 8
    So you are talking about 15 spots in total on the wheel that are either the number 5 or are going to make it look "soooooooo close!"
    Then with the 0 and 00 being the "dealer's numbers" those would probably be discounted by everybody like "Oh ho ho! There is that zero! That spin doesn't count!"

    So now you are talking 17 spots in total... or in other words there is a 44.7% chance that the dealer is going to either hit number 5, come "soooooooo close!" to it or is going to hit one of the zeros and get a "Oh ho ho! That doesn't count!" respin that its really going to seem like they can spin it with some pretty good accuracy.
     
  18. topcard

    topcard Here's to $10 3:2 two-deck, $5 Craps, and $5 UTH!

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    Casinos love players who use a martingale...at any game.
    That's enough to convince me to never use it.
    I don't play machines, but at blackjack? I've lost 8+ in row enough times to realize that martingale is a 'risk-of-ruin' nightmare system.

    Most $5 or $10 tables have a limit of $500 (or $1000).
    Let's assume a $5 to $500 table.
    5+10+15+30+60+120+240 = $480 after 7 hands. You can bet the $480 on the next hand, but if you lose that 8th in a row, you're down $960 at a $500 max-bet table.
    Of course, the opposite is true on a 'positive-progression' system. Plenty of times, I've won 8+ hands in a row, and had I been doubling my bet after each win, I'd be up $960 on the 8th win, without ever having risked more than $5 of my bankroll.

    The difference, of course, is that with martingale I can be bankrupt (for the day) in one session of 8 losing hands.
    With a positive progression, I can try it 200 times in one day and hope like hell I hit it once. If I don't, I'm still down $1000, but I played for several hours.

    So - you have to ask yourself - how probable is it that I'll have at least one 8+ hands-in-a-row winning streak over the course of 200 attempts?
    I can tell you from my personal experience - it's not many... way, way less than 1-in-200.
    3-in-a-row and 4-in-a-row? Sure - that will happen many times a day. Both ways. But one never knows when!

    Far better to increase your bet when you have a mathematically better chance of winning the next hand and decreasing your bet when you have a mathematically worse chance of winning the next hand.
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    Seems unlikely that your average croupier is going to develop any sort of skill, but I was inclined to believe that with enough practice a skilled croupier can skew the results, even if only slightly, to favor a certain area of the field. But your opinion makes it clear that it's impossible, so I'll dismiss the possibility any croupier could be skillful in releasing the ball.

    I can't decide if you agree or disagree with my assessment of the unlikeliness that this method would ever produce results beyond dumb luck, as I can't tell if you did or didn't read my response.

    Either way, it doesn't matter. I'm bored with the latest in roulette betting system discussions. I play it one in a blue moon for a little fun and a change of pace. It has been a few years... all this roulette talk has me itching to give it a go next time I'm in town.
     
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    I Have A Headache!!!!!!
     
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