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Not My Free Play

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Ronoh, Aug 6, 2013.

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  1. Ronoh

    Ronoh Tourist

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    Our local casino is a CET property and is about an hour drive down the road. A buddy of mine has parents who hit the casino once a month when the have to head that direction for medical reasons and these jaunts have resulted in a very good amount of freeplay offers (roughly $500 per week on each card). Since they only go when they "have to", my friends father gives him and his wife their cards to use the freeplay each week.

    This is obviously against the rules... but my question is what are the odds of them getting caught (only playing .25 non-progressive VP) and what would the consequences be if they were (for them and for his folks)?
     
  2. undathesea

    undathesea Grandissimo

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    If they hit a handpay... yikes! They lose money and the parents stop getting freeplay offers.

    They definitely get kicked out of the casino... but it could be considered theft since they were essentially stealing. This is a bad idea.
     
  3. FXT

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    If a host came over to greet the parents, they could get caught. Dont really see how else.

    I've never read about an instance where people were charged with a crime for using/selling/giving freeplay. I would think its frowned upon by the casino and gets you a boot from the casino and your account gets axed. No idea if they could take you to court to try and get their freeplay money back..



     
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    undathesea Grandissimo

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    If a host came over? That's odd. If they hit a hand pay, they have to give up their IDs. They need to validate that the jackpot was hit honestly. Very easy to get caught hitting a handpay.

    Not exactly the same thing, but similar and applicable...

    http://articles.mcall.com/2010-11-09/news/mc-sands-casino-players-cards-arrest-20101109_1_sands-casino-player-s-club-cards-gambler

    A 46-year-old Allentown man gambling at the Sands Casino in Bethlehem is jail on theft charges after state police say they caught him cashing in credits on comp cards other gamblers left behind.
     
  5. buzz_king

    buzz_king Low-Roller

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    How's he going to hit a handpay if he is "only playing .25 non-progressive VP"?
     
  6. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Just stick to games that pay LESS than $1,200.

    After cashing in the freeplay, you can sometimes remove their card and continue play. Depends on the system.

    Keep in mind, anytime they do this, the Average Daily Play that is recorded for your parents will drop. The offers will then drop accordingly.
     
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    undathesea Grandissimo

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    Multiplay.
     
  8. Smo

    Smo Mr. Las Vegas

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    Not really! In my local NA owned Harrah's casino, it's not uncommon for your host to drop by your machine while you are playing to see if there is anything you may need and to say "Hi!".

    I would be scared if this were to happen and I was playing some FP on my father's players card.
     
  9. OhioGuy

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    Ok it is NOT theft. The difference from your situation and the guy who got arrested is that the people who left their cards in the machines did not give their permission to him to use the free play. Now the casino could very easily deactivate the account or kick you off the property but you aren't going to jail.
     
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    Thats exactly what I was thinking. I've read TRs where hosts drop by to introduce themselves and offer their services. Im going to guess inserting the card alerts them of a certain person being in the casino? Is $500 freeplay a week player considered host worthy?
     
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    Yes. it is host worthy.
     
  12. 16gauge

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    "Oops, I must have gotten my card mixed up with my fathers, we have the same pin number and everything".

    or

    "He was just here, but had to leave suddenly and asked me to finish playing what he started"
     
  13. Joe

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    Different state I realize, but any "jackpot" at Main Street or the Cal is a hand pay, even if only $1,000. At other Boyd properties, Suncoast for instance, a $1,000 jackpot is a simple TITO. So obviously it varies casino to casino even in the same company.
     
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    Not hard to check those facts. You'd be a terrible criminal.
     
  15. KingBBInLV

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    I don't think there is much the casino can do legally unless it is explicitly stated that it is unlawful.

    On my mailer from Cache Creek Casino it is spelled out in bold capital letters their policy on people using freeplay that is not theirs.

    This is the only casino where I have seen that on a mailer.

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