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marsdude
11-16-2008, 10:12 AM
This is my long and probably boring trip report. You can find the pictures I refer to at:

http://picasaweb.google.com/buckhorncamp/VegasTripForWeb#

I headed out to Vegas Monday, November 10 on Allegiant Airlines from the Fort Collins/Loveland airport. I have two options to fly from my area in Colorado to Vegas. Allegiant is the only airline that flies out of the Fort Collins Airport and only flies to Vegas and back from there. I can also head down to Denver and fly from there but Allegiant is inexpensive and much closer. My round trip flight this time was about $120 with taxes. I was staying in the Excalibur this time for two reasons. My plan was to spend most of my time in the Excalibur poker room and the deal that the EX was giving me was hard to pass up. I had four nights for around $150 (standard room). My wife is not as enthusiastic about Vegas as I am so I was alone this time.

My last trip in October was funded by my surprise win at a slot machine in Blackhawk, CO. This trip was being financed by winnings in Vegas on two slots and the poker table. My goal was to completely pay for the trip with poker winnings. Lofty goals perhaps, but why not try?

The trip began with a series of hurdles. First the flight was delayed almost an hour. Not a big thing, but when I arrived at McCarran I decided, because I was on my own, to take a shuttle instead of a cab. I was the first on the shuttle and had a long wait as the shuttle filled. The first person to get on was a visibly drunk guy in his late 20’s with a CSI had on. As soon as he got on I felt he was trying to sneak on the shuttle for he did not come from the back and he just was acting weird. Anyway, the shuttle filled and the driver came on, counted heads, looked back at his tickets and asked for the person that had not given him a ticket to do so. Everyone said they had given him a ticket. Making a long story short the driver finally had to go through a process of elimination of who was going to what hotel to find out that “Mr. CSI” had not given him a ticket. The driver handled it quite well and got Mr. (drunk) CSI off the shuttle and to his supervisor so we could finally leave. I think it will be a taxi for me next time.

I finally get to the Excalibur. I had never stayed here before - as I said before I booked it mainly for the price. I was booked into a standard room and I was hoping to get an upgrade to a wide-screen room but when I was checking in they wanted to charge me $80 more for the week for a wide-screen room. That was over half of what I was paying for the entire week so I said no. Got up to my room and found it not ready! There was trash still in the room and no soap or shampoo in the bathroom. I headed back down to the desk to inform them of the situation. I received an apology and a free upgrade to a wide-screen room! I was really happy about this for I do not think I would have like the beds in the standard room. I took pictures of both rooms as you can see at my link to the pictures I took on this trip. On my way back up to my room there were a lot of people waiting for the elevators. Someone said that there was only one working and there was one elevator open but dark and obviously shut down. All of a sudden a maintenance person shows up, gets on the elevator, turns it on and motions us all to get on. We get in the elevator and as the doors are shutting I ask him “is the elevator fixed now.” He answers “well we’ll see, this is the trial run!” Everyone in the elevator looked at one another and smiled nervously, gulp. No problems however. A few tips on the Excalibur rooms. I would always go for the wide-screen room, much nicer. The standard rooms are in Tower 1 and the wide-screen in Tower 2. No matter what tower you are in ask for a room that does not face Las Vegas Blvd. (Tower 1) or Tropicana (Tower 2). My room faced Tropicana and even on the 26th floor the traffic noise was very loud!

I didn’t do a lot on the first night. I walked down the strip and played some video poker and that is about all. The next day I signed up for the 9 AM poker tourney at the EX. It is only a $20 buy-in – I think it is the cheapest tourney on the strip. I finished just out of the money at 7th place with fifty in the event. Not too bad but I would have like to cash. I played a little more at a cash table and was up about $50 so I decided to quit and head down the strip. I took a picture of the construction of the new bar at the NYNY. You can see this also at my link above. Went down to the Palazzo and just spent some time looking around. I entered the 5 PM poker tourney at O’Shea’s. I almost made the final table but was knocked out at 11th. I ended the night playing at Bill’s new poker room. It is not really a room but a roped off area in front of the casino. I just wanted to see how the action was. The dealers were some of the nicest I have ever played with but I didn’t do well, I was up, down, and finally finished the evening with about a $50 loss. One footnote to this day, as I was heading back to the EX through Bally’s I got hear a band called Jamm playing at the Indigo Lounge. They are simply the best lounge band I have ever heard. I would recommend checking them out on your next trip. The sign said they were there from Thursday – Saturday but since this was Tuesday I don’t know how accurate that is.

On Wednesday I played the 9 AM tourney at the EX again and finished 12th. I then played a cash game when a weird thing happened. The PokerPro electronic table malfunctioned. I had made a raise and the when the player two positions to my right called the table froze. I have a picture of the frozen table at my link. It took a half hour to resolve the situation. I have played these tables a lot now. I really like them and have never had this happen before or after. We did receive a comp to a meal from the poker host. Later that day I went back down to Bill’s to try their tables again. On my first hand my Kings were cracked by a set of tens that came on the river. Everything went downhill from there I played for about three hours and finally ended up about $100 down for that evening. Headed back to the EX and caught Jamm at Bally’s for a while.

Thursday was my last full day and it was a poker marathon for me. Again I started out playing the 9 AM tourney at the EX. I was the first knocked out of the tourney – OUCH! It was a bad beat but those things happen. I usually really enjoy playing tournaments but this time I did much better on the cash tables. It was so early that there was no cash table going yet but there was one other person waiting to get a game going so I went over to sit with him and talk. This is how I met Patrick from France. He was new to poker so, although I am certainly not a pro, we talked different strategies for a while. A few more players showed up and we began the game. I didn’t realize when we began that Patrick and I would be at this table together for over thirteen hours. To say I had fun at this table is an understatement – I had a blast! This was a .50 - $1 blind table. I bought in for $50 and by the end of the night I had made over $500. Not a huge win but enough to make me even for the trip. At one time during the game Patrick, who had also bought into the game for $50 was up to $700. There are many funny stories during that marathon session. We began calling Patrick Mr. Flush because whenever there was a flush draw on the table he was in to the river – and most of the time he would hit! The most memorable moment for me was with John from England who, for many hours, was the player just to my right. His play was pretty good but a little loose. I had 9 – 8 of spades and called. The flop came 8-9-8 with two hearts. I have full house! John bets out and I call, everyone else folds. Another heart comes on the turn, John bets out strong, I just call trying to trap. The river is a heart! John goes all in – I’m thinking he has the A of hearts. There is no possible straight flush on the table so I call the all-in. There is over six hundred dollars in this pot, by far the biggest of the evening. We turn over our cards – John has the 9-8 of clubs –we both have the same hand! We looked in disbelief at each others hand, then turned and looked at each other, and then just started laughing and literally beating on each other, calling each other a SOB and laughing till we almost cried. Some of the others at the table who had not been paying attention to the hand thought we were mad!

The next morning I check out of the room and went and played poker for a few hours until I had to leave. Again the plane was delayed and after we boarded the pilot came back and made the announcement that there had been and electrical problem and they had almost decided not to use this plane but they thought it would be ok now – thanks, that was really reassuring! Made it back fine and I can’t wait to go back.

I didn’t quite make my goal. I didn’t cover all of my expenses with winnings. I am out of pocket for about $400 for flight, room, and food. I did bring all of the money I took for gambling back with me. I am still ahead totally from my last two wins at Blackhawk and Vegas. If I had stuck to cash games at the EX this time I think I would have had bigger wins. I am planning on heading back either Feb. or March of next year and try my strategy again.

dewey089
11-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Great report. Nice job upgrading for free at the Ex and a fine story of a split pot. I also like your delight in meeting guys from other places in the world. Looks like you had a great trip.

fivecardstud
11-16-2008, 11:58 AM
hrmm so the 9am tourney at the EX is $20? I thought i read somewhere that is was a freeroll. Still sounds like fun though, im really curious to try out thier new system. As long as they have the wheel, it will still be the Excalibur poker room to me.

Blonde_4_ever
11-16-2008, 12:16 PM
I think you did well..only being out $400.
Thanks for the report!

texas_aggie_girl_93
11-16-2008, 12:55 PM
Nice score on the free upgrade. Those rooms definitely look a lot nicer. Coming home with all of original gambling money is a win in my book! Congrats!

DBear
11-16-2008, 12:59 PM
Yes, $400 for a couple of days in Vegas with flight is still quite a score. Congrats on your play.

SH0CK
11-16-2008, 01:14 PM
Checking out your pics and I must say, I think the Excalibur standard rooms are DEFINATELY off my list :eek:
I can't believe how "Holiday Inn" the standard rooms look, especially the TV stand. And this coming from someone who has stayed at the Sahara... I think I'd take the Sahara standard rooms over Excalibur's regular rooms anyday :confused2:

Congrats on your $500 poker win! Coming home even on gambling is always my goal, so I would consider this a successful trip :thumbsup:

TexasTechFan
11-16-2008, 01:42 PM
Great TR marsdude, I'll be in town from the 26th to the 30th, I'm going to have to make that tourny at the Excalibur at least once. Based on your last couple of TRs I gather that you like the new poker tables. My brother went to Canada a couple of months ago and played on one, he does not think I will like it but I'm going to give it a try anyway. What kind of music does that band at the Indigo Lounge play? My first two trips to LV last year I spent alot of hours sitting at one of those Texas Hold Em table games right outside of the lounge listening to some great groups playing old school type Motown. When I went in July they just had couple of lounge acts playing the standard crooner type music. They were good but it did not create the same type of vibe.

gmoney590
11-16-2008, 04:07 PM
Man, the difference between Ex's standard and widescreen rooms are night and day. The one thing about playing live poker is that you can meet some great people. It kinda evens out the know it alls and assholes.

marsdude
11-16-2008, 04:47 PM
hrmm so the 9am tourney at the EX is $20? I thought i read somewhere that is was a freeroll. Still sounds like fun though, im really curious to try out thier new system. As long as they have the wheel, it will still be the Excalibur poker room to me.

It was a free roll in October but now it is $20 - still pretty cheap!

marsdude
11-16-2008, 04:49 PM
Checking out your pics and I must say, I think the Excalibur standard rooms are DEFINATELY off my list :eek:
I can't believe how "Holiday Inn" the standard rooms look, especially the TV stand. And this coming from someone who has stayed at the Sahara... I think I'd take the Sahara standard rooms over Excalibur's regular rooms anyday :confused2:

Congrats on your $500 poker win! Coming home even on gambling is always my goal, so I would consider this a successful trip :thumbsup:

You hit the nail on the head. I have stayed in the Shara twice now - if you can ignore the hallways the rooms are not so bad. The beds in the EX really put me off. I would say wide-screen room or nothing!

marsdude
11-16-2008, 04:50 PM
Great report. Nice job upgrading for free at the Ex and a fine story of a split pot. I also like your delight in meeting guys from other places in the world. Looks like you had a great trip.

Thanks Dewey - I really did have a great time at the tables. I would love to sit at a poker table with you. You would probably clean my clock, but it would be a great time.

Thor
11-16-2008, 04:52 PM
sounds like a great time...and a little profitable! great pics!:beer::beer::beer:

marsdude
11-16-2008, 04:59 PM
What kind of music does that band at the Indigo Lounge play? My first two trips to LV last year I spent alot of hours sitting at one of those Texas Hold Em table games right outside of the lounge listening to some great groups playing old school type Motown. When I went in July they just had couple of lounge acts playing the standard crooner type music. They were good but it did not create the same type of vibe.

I KNEW someone was going to ask me that. I am trying hard to remember. I am from the Crosby Stills and Nash era so, although I recognized a lot of the music they played, I don't know if I can name it. I think one of the songs was "Boogie Down." The lead (gal) singer could sing the phone book and it would sound good.

breanna61
11-16-2008, 06:45 PM
A very successful trip.....not coming home broke is winning, lol. The standard rooms at the Excalibur sure are motelish! Good job on the upgrade.:o

bronx12
11-17-2008, 08:26 AM
Just a correction, what you were playing at Excalibur is NOT poker.

Electronic tables is not and will never be a Poker experience.

But congrats on the win.

Cleveland Gary
11-17-2008, 08:51 AM
Just a correction, what you were playing at Excalibur is NOT poker.

Electronic tables is not and will never be a Poker experience.

But congrats on the win.

Man I bet it would be fun to sit next to you on a 5 hr plane trip

gotavegasjones
11-17-2008, 01:52 PM
Nice TR. Enjoyed the story about the split pot. Thanks for posting.

later, GVJ

jefferson66
11-17-2008, 02:54 PM
Thanks for the TR. We're planning on playing the 9am at the Excalibur on the 29th, just to give the electronic poker tables a whirl.

Amazing the diff between those rooms, night and day. Does the standard room have vibrating beds?

"Are you a poker pro?"

"No, but I did stay at an Excalibur standard room last night."

marsdude
11-17-2008, 04:12 PM
Just a correction, what you were playing at Excalibur is NOT poker.

Electronic tables is not and will never be a Poker experience.

But congrats on the win.

Ah, we have a Luddite in our midst. Sorry, but I do not agree. You, of course, are welcome to your opinion, but poker is poker - no matter if it is online, at an electronic table, or with a dealer and chips. The strategy is the same.

marsdude
11-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Does the standard room have vibrating beds?


Not on purpose - however, if you got a room on a lower floor I think the traffic on Tropicana or Las Vegas Blvd. would probably offer all the vibration you would want. :wink2:

breanna61
11-17-2008, 05:05 PM
Not on purpose - however, if you got a room on a lower floor I think the traffic on Tropicana or Las Vegas Blvd. would probably offer all the vibration you would want. :wink2:
:clap::clap::clap:

tnkc
11-17-2008, 07:49 PM
Great TR; I remember your last one, as well. I'd be more than happy to come back even after my last couple of trips to Vegas; needless to say they were very painful!

The NYNY bar looks like the one near the lion pit in MGM to me. Interesting about the table locking up; I kind of wondered if that would happen; you always supposed it could. Those marathon sessions (not just in poker, but whatever...craps, bj, you name it) are a blast and always what I remember most about Vegas (probably what sucks me back in!).

As far as electronic tables, it seems to me that all that is missing is a dealer (by the way, that e-dealer looks hot), "real" chips, and "real" cards...you still have players that you can read and such. It isn't like comparing Madden to actual football; to me it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It is much more "real" than online poker, where you don't have other players to read and you have to rely upon how they play the cards. Anyway, don't want to open up a can of worms and start a debate.

Your trip sounds fantastic and I'm glad you had a good time. Appreciate you sharing.

Jeffro
11-17-2008, 10:36 PM
Great report, sounds like you had a lot of fun. I've always wondered what it'd be like going to LV alone. I actually think I'd like it as I would play poker nearly the whole time as it sounds like you did and there's nobody else to have to worry about leaving alone for too long while you play a 12 hour session.

Also thanks for posting about Allegiant, I didn't know about them. I live just south of Ft. Collins and may want to try them out.

bronx12
11-18-2008, 06:07 AM
All I'm saying is ask any real "Poker" player and what you played was not "Poker". Pushing buttons, looking at a little screen is not Poker.

I hope you enjoyed getting raked by the rake.

marsdude
11-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Also thanks for posting about Allegiant, I didn't know about them. I live just south of Ft. Collins and may want to try them out.

You can check out Allegiant's web site here:

http://www.allegiantair.com

They are convenient to the Fort Collins area and offer some low cost flights, however, they charge for every little thing like reserving a seat before hand, checking baggage, etc. Their flights also get into Vegas late in the afternoon and head back to FC around noon.

dewey089
11-18-2008, 07:19 AM
All I'm saying is ask any real "Poker" player and what you played was not "Poker". Pushing buttons, looking at a little screen is not Poker.

Yep, that is what is wrong with America. Jist too much change.
Why, we used to know what real poker was. A fella could sit with his wooden chair tipped back and his right boot on another chair at an angle that would allow his six gun to slide out as smooth as butter on hot biscuits if some low cheatin' skunk tried some shinanigins. "Bad Beat" might mean a few good clouts to the jaw and a wake up in the horse trough in those days. No fancy awards like at a Boy Scout meetin'. Men played poker in them days, son, real men.

Maybe Miss Kitty would have her arm draped around his neck.
Them was the days, pardner.

And before the day was out there'd be a gun fight or at least a knife fight and some real blood spilled.

And that game was real poker. None of this modern new fangled "hold em"
Why that even sounds like a sissy game, don't it? Who invented that, anyway?
And folks watching that on some fake new fangled television screen. Lots of folks. Why watchin' that poker is about as excitin' as watchin' whitewash dry on a new fence post.

For gawd's sake turn off that new fangled stuff. Nothin' real about it. It ain't goin' to last neither. So jist turn it off and get on yur horse and find you a real poker game, one played with 5 cards all in yur hand, son. No communal cards! Sounds like a Commie game to me.
None of that in the old days when real men played real poker.
In them days no one could see any of yur cards. No reason to change any of that as far as I can see. Why good ole draw poker was good enough for Dusty and me for lots of years and it oughta be good enough for these youngins comin' up.

And in the real days of real poker nobody used none of these poor plastic excuses for money that the modern gambler types call "chips." (Why we all know what "chips" are, and what end of the Buffalo they comes from too.)
Real poker is played with real money: silver dollars, gold nuggets, deeds to ranches, and in hard times maybe some sweet young female companion tossed at the pot when the dough run out.

Ask any "real" poker player. What these greenhorn modern half pints call poker ain't nothin' like real poker atall.

marsdude
11-18-2008, 07:26 AM
All I'm saying is ask any real "Poker" player and what you played was not "Poker". Pushing buttons, looking at a little screen is not Poker.

I hope you enjoyed getting raked by the rake.

OK bronx - I don't want to get in a big argument here, that is not what these forums are for, but speaking of buttons - you are pushing mine. :nono:

Your statement reveals and incredibly narrow view point and is insulting to all online poker players. I am, by your own definition, a REAL poker player. I have played in many tournaments and cash games with a dealer, cards, and chips. Because of where I live I have much more experience online. Each experience is real poker, just different. The online experience is much more different because there is no face to face interaction with other players that is one of the main components of a poker game. The electronic tales, of course, have that component. Using your view point I could argue that only and abacus is at true calculator for the electronic calculators don't have a frame to hold and beads to move up and down.

If you state that for you the electronic tables are not a real poker experience I would support your point of view. Some people just want to hold chips and cards when they play poker. I, speaking as a real poker player, do not find that I need the chips or cards to have a real poker experience. Oh, and by the way, the rake on the electronic tables is lower. In fact, because there is no dealer to tip, you keep more of each pot you win.

Slot machines were first introduced into casinos to give the wives something to do while their husbands, the "real gamblers" played the table games. Times change. :peace:

marsdude
11-18-2008, 07:30 AM
Ask any "real" poker player. What these greenhorn modern half pints call poker ain't nothin' like real poker atall.

Well put, as always Dewey.

DonD
11-18-2008, 07:32 AM
Slot machines were first introduced into casinos to give the wives something to do while their husbands, the "real gamblers" played the table games. Times change.
There is talk of slots doing away with real coins and going to TITO. Can you imagine. :D

jefferson66
11-18-2008, 12:59 PM
Yet another awesome Dewey post. Well said, sir.

Bronx, if you don't enjoy it, that doesn't make it "not" poker. The rules are the same. The cards, chips, dealers, betting, winning and losing are the same. Some may be digital, and some "real", but the game works exactly the same, online or live.

I, like you, MUCH prefer real chips and real cards in my hands, and real people to read. But that doesn't mean when I get sucked out on on RiverStars, I'm not playing poker. I live in Phoenix, where we're fortunate enough to have 3 casinos within short driving distances. But I still play online from time to time for convenience and practice. And a full boat still works the same as it does at the table at Casino Arizona.